happycat Anonymous

is steve holy still going around town big-timing people? go to the page below and click on the sound file called, strangely: "steve holy being a jerk to us"... that guy's a fun one.

http://www.colinboyd.net/haiku.html

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NY44 Anonymous

Check out this link ... http://www.dallasnews.com/audio/0109s...

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

You all need to shut your mouths.Nobody knows what really happened except for Steve Holy and the others that were at the house at the time.No one should be running their mouths about anything, when none of you know the true story.That's all I have to say to you very low people.

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NY44 Anonymous

Really? Doesn't seem like the city listened too much to the officers who got fired without a trial. Guess the Constitution and Bill of Rights were re-written into a Texas version. Everybody should be wary of a totally drunk guy saying what he wants about anybody.

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

Well it's not like the officers had to run away.But they did.If the story wasn't true, they wouldn't have ran, right?They would have stood up and said something.But they didn't.That would make me very suspicious.

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

Well okay.What ever you say.I'm not going to argue with you.I have better things to do.In the end,everyone is entitled to their own opinions.

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foreverhonesty2000 Anonymous

rkisok,

He must be one of the cops in the story, Jessica never backdown, most cops are crooks and we all know it.

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NY44 Anonymous

Don't forget to throw politicians, CEOs, lawyers and journalists under the Crook Bus as well. All I'm saying is that we've become a country that has allowed due process to be replaced with "It's On TV, It Must Be True." It doesn't matter what you do for a living. It looks like anybody in Texas can accuse you of something and it's taken as truth without a trial. Today, it's these two cops. Tomorrow it could be you.

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

Why is it just Texas though?Texas isn't the only so called "bad" state in the U.S. Now I don't live there so nobody say that's why I'm sticking up for the state.Because I'm not.I'm just saying.And it's going to trial, so it's not like it won't be looked at.

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imhisdove Anonymous

Have you guys even listened to the 911 tapes? Probably not, so before you're quick to judge someone(even a celebrity) in such a negative manner, know the whole story first.

First of all, the cops should NOT have left when they did, knowing full well that they were going to get in trouble. They should have stuck around, if they were innocent, to prove their innocence and deal with the situation at hand once the other police officers arrived. Not only that, but there was a friend there as well, a witness, who isn't famous at all! What would the witness have to gain from this? Not publicity like Steve Holy is getting!!!

Second, the police officers would NOT have been fired if there credible proof that they were innocent. They would only have been suspended until the investigation was completed. In this case, they must've had something to prove that those officers did indeed harrass Steve Holy.

Thirdly, they all did have a few drinks, but apparently the officers took it too far. Just because they are officers don't mean that they get to get off for doing something stupid while under the influence. Had Mr. Steve Holy put a gun to the officer's head, then I'm pretty sure that he would have been put to jail himself.

And I'm sorry, I lived in Texas for 8 years. I don't see how anything was done wrong, by firing these two officers. Just because you're accused of doing something in the state of Texas, does not mean it's taken as the truth without a trial. That is just plain ridiculous and you know it. There will be a trial, but until then, be rest assured that there are 2 former police officers who won't be harassing another person, whether it be an average joe or a celebrity. The behavior was totally uncalled for, drunk or not. Did Steve pull out a gun? No. They did. Simple as that!

So get over yourselves. Apparently you all have nothing better to do than gossip in a negative manner and taking everything out of context here.

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

Oh C'Lynn..I love you.Finally someone has common sense!

Oh and we do know quite a bit (not all) about the story. Being on the Street Team works wonders(rkisok) :D

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!

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imhisdove Anonymous

LOL. Actually, I'm not in any fan clubs =) And even if I wasn't a fan of Steve Holy, I would still defend him because it's common sense.

If anyone doesn't like his music, fine... they don't have to, but that doesn't mean that they have to dislike everything else that involves him.

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

You know C'Lynn, I agree with you on that. I hate it when people say things about people just because they don't like them.

I'm not really saying all of this to defend him. Like you said C'Lynn, it's basically common sense.

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jtmbls Anonymous

Yes, clearly jessica has much better things to do than argue with you. She only had time to post 6 annoying comments. What are you, his girlfriend or something?

What everyone needs to keep in mind is that only one side of the story has been heard. The officers being fired was fully expected as the Dallas Police Department covers it's arse against the lawsuit that is sure to follow. (Kunkle has a long reputation of playing the CYA game.) Ask again what Holy's friend has to gain from all this...How about a couple million?

imhisdove - How do you know the cops even knew he was calling 911? Maybe they didn't realize they should have stayed around for more drunk guy blubbering just in case? I have listened to the 911 tape and encourage everyone else to do the same if you have a whole ten minutes and 32 seconds of your life to waste. It certainly doesn't paint your "recording artist" buddy in a very good light. He states he's going to sue him, he's going to kill him and then lies and tries to pretend someone else just snuck up on him and said those things to the 911 operator.

All I can say is that I only had to listen to ten minutes of this blubbering idiot - Can you imagine hours of this? It's a miracle someone hasn't taken this guy out a long time ago.

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imhisdove Anonymous

I just find it funny, that people are so negative towards celebrities. I mean, just because they are celebrities don't mean that they get away with everything. Money won't keep them out of jail. And the cops had to have known, somewhere in the back of their drunken minds, that he would call the cops. You don't just put a gun to someone's head, and run away expecting them NOT to call.

And Steve Holy is human too. Just like us, he makes mistakes. But I'm sorry... based on all the media/news from one side of the story, the Police Dept must've had some reason to believe Steve Holy's side to be credible, or they wouldn't have fired them. Normally they'd just suspend them until their investigation is complete. However in this case, it appears that Mr. Steve Holy was assaulted at gunpoint.

Not only that, he might not even sue those officers. Most people, in sheer panic, say things like they're going to sue someone or kill them... but it doesn't necessarily mean that they will.

That blubbering idiot... was drunk, just as the officers were. It got out of hand, but then again... Steve is not the one who pulled out a gun, and we have yet to hear the officers defending themselves, which leads me to believe that the dept's decision to fire those officers, was a good one. I wouldn't want a drunken off-duty police officer pulling a gun on me either...

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

Oh yeah,JTMBLS,i'm his "14" yr old girlfriend, and he's like 35 && married.Right,okay.But anyways..it's sad when a 14 yr old has more class and common sense than the one's that are probably like twice my age...okay...i'm now officialy done.

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jtmbls Anonymous

Nice recovery rkisok! :-)

For your information...The Dallas Police Officers were fired for 1.) Being discourtious to a citizen 2.) Being involved in an incident to which the police were called 3.) Having charges filed against them. Take the time to look up the FACTS. The charge filed against them is a misdemeanor. Last time I checked, holding a gun to someones head is a felony assault with a deadly weapon. So clearly there is more to the story than we know. And please...don't tell me that money thrown at a decent attorney won't get you out of trouble. It got Steve Holy out of trouble in 2005 when he was arrested for DWI...It took his attorney nearly a year to get the charge dismissed. He was drunk enough to be taken to jail but had enough money to throw at an attorney to make it go away. Happens everyday.

Negative towards celebrities? I find it amazing that people are so negetive toward police officers. These are people who risk their lives every day so that you and I can live a resonably safe existance. And guess what, they are human too!

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ameripro Anonymous

"These are people who risk their lives every day"

I get so tired of that phrase. First of all - no they don't! Some of them are at risk occasionally. What did they think the job was when they signed up for it? And lots of them sit behind desks every day. And Dallas cops have the best benefit package in the country and (because of the 27.5% the taxpayers have to contribute to their pension fund) are among the most costly police in the nation. The pension contribution was increased to cover a potential shortage something like 30 years ago and then they added benefits so the 27.5% contribution needed to continue. And then they bitch about their pay. Why don't they alter their benefit package and take more of it as pay? Then the citizens of Dallas wouldn't have any trouble recruiting new police officers. And the new police officers would know they were signing up to do police work and get in risky situations - That's the job. Big surprise!

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jtmbls Anonymous

Thank you ameripro for making my point so emphatically. You seem awfully agitated that these people who protect and serve are receiving these benefits. Why? I don’t know about the rest of you but I’m a little hard pressed to put a price tag on the protection of my family, my home, myself. How much do you think it would cost us to have to hire private security? You’re right, who needs them…Let’s send them all home. Maybe then they will go make the big bucks doing a really noble job that people in America actually respect like playing sports, acting or hey…being recording artists!!

They are at risk “occasionally”. Somewhat subjective, don’t you think? Tell me, what do you do for a living? How often do you walk down the hall to another cubicle and wonder whether the guy inside is willing to blow your head off to keep from going to jail? Maybe you’re right; they really aren’t putting their lives on the line everyday. That would be why they go through all that special training. Also, why they are so heavily armed. Perhaps you should watch the local news, or maybe an episode of Cops every now and then. Or better yet, why don’t you sit down with a few of Dallas’ finest, have a cup of coffee and listen to their stories. Listen to what it is really like to have to deal with the most despicable aspects of human nature EVERY DAY.

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ameripro Anonymous

Let's try to limit our comparisons to apples to apples and oranges to oranges.

It's their job. That is the job description. That's what they signed up for. If they don't like dealing with those people, get another job. Since you know them so well, who did they think they were going to be working with and what did they think the job description was?

And don't let them fool you, including benefits, Dallas cops are some of the best paid in the country.

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jtmbls Anonymous

Good idea - I believe that I am. What exactly is it that confused you?

I am fairly certain that in order to have such a calling, they pretty much know what they are getting into. And lucky for you and me they are willing do their jobs, as horrendous as they might be, whatever the pay. I'm merely trying to figure out why you are so bitter? Clearly you have issues with the boys in blue. Where is that coming from?

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jtmbls Anonymous

Oh Scott…Please don’t tell me you are more intrigued by the rantings of someone who should be spending their time watching Hanna Montana instead of defending a drunken, self-proclaimed semi-celebrity! I was most relieved to find that the girl is only 14 (and where are her parents by the way?) than to have to believe that there are actual adults out there who can’t see the bigger picture. Our whole entire culture is obsessed with the media and GUESS WHAT…They are the least honest, discernible and least accountable creatures on the planet! Forget about this particular case for just one moment and remember back to the Olympic Park Bomber case in Atlanta. Does anyone remember Richard Jewell? The security guard who just happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time? In the frenzied rush to bring to you, the consumer, the so called facts, the newspaper and television media outlets absolutely crucified this man. And he, my fellow Americans, was completely innocent! The Associated Press quotes him ten years after the fact; “The heroes are soon forgotten. The villains last a lifetime,” Jewell told The Associated Press in an exclusive interview. “I dare say more people know I was called a suspect than know I was the one who found the package and know I was cleared.” Ladies and gentlemen, I hate to be the one to break it to you but innocent until proven guilty in this country is an absolute farce thanks to the lack of ethics shown by our media! Don’t think for one second you could not be that person, in his shoes, with half truths and outright lies printed in black and white. Branded…before your friends, family, neighbors…for the whole world to see and scarily believe, just because it’s being spoon fed to them. With a lawyer in your face telling you that you can’t respond…just suck it up…tell your mother to suck it up…tell your friends to suck it up for the next year or so until our glorified legal system works it all out. And in the meantime…? You have not just the job…but the career, the life’s calling of a young man destroyed based solely on ALLEGATIONS. While the alleged “victim” in this case has had his name in every paper, more hits on his website than ever before and now everyone knows his name. This guy would have had to spend a fortune to get the exposure he is getting right now. The disturbing difference is indeed the celebrity factor – Just ask Paris Hilton…any press is good press when you’re famous (or trying to be famous). Any attention is good attention and will surely affect his bottom line. While the man who could have…would have risked his own life to save yours…Well, I guess you are on your own. I’m fairly certain Steve Holy won’t be risking his butt to come rescue you.

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

Yeah okay...so one...just because I'm 14,doesn't mean I'm not entitled to my own opinion. My parents have nothing to do with this so you can keep them out of your mouth. Don't underestimate me. You don't know me, so you need to stop talking about me. I'm tired of people always telling me to be quiet just because I'm 14. I probably act more mature than you ever will. And if the press are the least honest ones, then why are you spending your time believing rather or not the police should be held accountable? You know,you really should take your own advice before you pass it on to someone else. It's called being a hypocrite. Look it up in the dictionary.

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imhisdove Anonymous

You know what... Steve Holy would risk his butt to rescue anybody, even your sorry bum.

And I'm sorry... it seems like Jessicamae93 is more mature for her age, than all of you at your age! I don't even know the girl, but I applaud her.

You think people are so negative about police officers? Well, maybe where you come from. I have a friend who is a police officer and I respect everything about them. But even he says, that police officers makes mistakes... even big ones. I agree with that. .

And for you to say they were fired for "1.) Being discourteous to a citizen 2.) Being involved in an incident to which the police were called 3.) Having charges filed against them," Doesn't really add up. There are always police officers who make mistakes who DON'T get fired over this. They get suspended, or warnings, unless it's pretty severe.

Grow up people...

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jtmbls Anonymous

Really? Well please...send me his number. The next time there is a drug dealer, rapist or murderer on the loose we can call Mr. Holy and maybe his drama queen antics will scare all the bad guys away. What do I know; Drunk AND Stupid could very well be a most effective superpower.

As I said before, police officers are human too! The obvious conclusion being, they do indeed make mistakes. Big ones, little ones...just like you and me. And you are right; they don't always get fired - Unless...they make…the news! I am simply unable to break it down for you any more than that. (Somebody remind me again why the newspapers in this country are forced to write on a sixth grade level.) Don’t take my word for the stated reasons for the firings, do the research yourself. The facts are available to you. Unless you would rather base your argument on pure emotion as opposed to an educated opinion.

Nobody knows what happened that night except the people who were there. There is his side, his side, and somewhere in the middle, there is the truth. And that’s what Judges are for.

But we do agree on one thing, you and the 14 year old are potentially intellectual soul mates.

Scott - I know you're praying for a pillow fight!

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imhisdove Anonymous

"WE" agree? And who might that be??

And I'm sorry... I've heard plenty of police officers who made the news for something they have done, and I'm sure not all of them were fired. The dept must have some reason to believe those officers did indeed to something they shouldn't have done, because the dept usually takes care of it's own if innocent. It's not based on pure emotion, it's based on the facts that were given to us, and yet no one has stepped forward in the news to defend these two police officers.

And sorry Scott... no pillow fight tonight.

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jtmbls Anonymous

As I am unwilling and unable to sit here for an eternity repeating myself, please refer to my previous comments for rebuttal.

Could somebody please bring me a drink...and a gun...Anybody???

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." - Mark Twain

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imhisdove Anonymous

LOL. Oh get over yourself already =)

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Jessicamae93 Anonymous

I don't get it. Why must you refer to me as "the 14 yr old?" Thats not my name.

Like IMHISDOVE said....get over yourself :)

Much Love, JESSICA :). Not "the 14 yr old"

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NY44 Anonymous

Unfortunately, police officers under investigation are bound by their departments with a Gauranty Warning that prohibits them from speaking about details to anyone. And when they get their jobs back, they sign another agreement to not discuss the details. Pretty neat, huh? The only way they can tell their side is to go to trial. You think the City of Dallas protects it's employees? Hahahahaha. Both of these guys will eventually end up working again as officers but with thousands of dollars in legal debt and ruined lives.

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