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Monday, March 19, 2007

UPDATED: War protesters blocking Mockingbird-75 overpass during rush hour, moved on by 5:45

Updated 06:03 p.m., March 19, 2007

by Mike Orren

DALLAS — A group of war protesters, marching on the fourth anniversary of the Iraq invasion have taken control of the overpass at Mockingbird and 75. This was part of a planned route for a march from downtown to SMU, complete with police escort. However, according to eyewitnesses once the protesters, numbering more than two hundred, reached the overpass, they stopped, refusing to move and blocking traffic.

As of 5:25, police had not been able to remove the protesters and restore traffic flow.

UPDATE: As of 5:45, they dispersed from the bridge and moved on to the campus

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Sounds like another attempt from the lib's.... Wish colleges would actually teach partisonship to our kids, instead of brainwashing them with only one point of view. Not until they are adults do they actually see the big picture. Unfortunately most people are sheep and follow other people's lead.

"Look hunny, lots of sheep crossing the road and they look like they are stopping traffic."

Grayhawk Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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Damn, I wish I had been there to participate.

And, the "sheep" are actually those like the poster immediately above me, who's still following the Preznit's lead.

Hey, move on... you're blocking mental traffic up there.

SocraticGadfly Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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can we keep the discussion on a higher level, por favor?

Blair Lovern Staff

2 years, 8 months ago
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i just wish Grayhawk knew how to spell "partisonship"

Teresa Gubbins Staff

2 years, 8 months ago
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Prezdent Bush told me he would stop the war as soon as 200 people blocked a city overpass.

milesi826 Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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This was not meant to intise anger out of anyone. Just trying to make the point that most poeple follow the crowd, and do so without thinking. I don't agree with the Republicians nor the Democrats on all the issues that face our country today. They are both to one-sided on to many issues.

I agree that this war is bad for America, but the fact is that we are there. I personally have family over there fighting for us. I don't think that anyone likes to see our servicemen and woman dying for any reason.

Can you honestly sit there and say that leaving now would be a good thing? Maybe in the short term, but in the long run we, as a country, will be worse off. Another breeding ground for the radical hate mongers is what I forsee. Leaving now will be a HUGE victory for them.

Listening to the radio on the way back to my house I heard an interview of a woman that was part of that "march". She said something along the lines of there is never any reason to wage war. That every disagreement can be discussed and worked out. Sorry but this gave me a chuckle. What world has she been living on? Have you seen and heard these radicals? There is no discussion, there is only "Death to the infidels!". While she discusses peace they are planning another 9/11 and worse.

Insult me and people like me all you want, I have thick skin. But like you, I have the freedom to speak my mind, and want it to stay that way. Freedom for my children and my grandchildren.

May God bless you and your family.

Grayhawk Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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Grayhawk, here's what I hear you saying...

"bahhhh. Bahhhh. Bahhhh."

as in, sheeple.

Lessee, we stormed into THEIR country (which, btw, had nothing to do with 9/11), tore up THEIR country, killed THEIR people, turned THEIR country upside down...and now they want to kill us? Hhhhm...what a surprise.

Imagine that Iraq is the US, and the Chinese invaded us the way we invaded them. How would you respond?

Probably just like they have.

CastleHills Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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Castle, you have a very good point. I have to agree with you. Although I never said I agreed with the war or how we invaded. But like I said, we are there now. We have to look at the present and not the past. You can't turn back time. Leaving will do nothing but make it worse for the Iraqi's. The President screwed up, and unfortunatly we are forced to stay the course or face the consequences.

Grayhawk Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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Good point? Are you kidding me? Let me guess, when there's another tragic event in the US will you then claim that we deserved it and had it coming? Possibly when 30 school busses explode in some magnificent display across the nation you will think that it was all Bush's fault that it happened and if we don't respond we can all just say we're sorry or that 'we're even' or 'bygones' and roll back to simpler time when we didn't have to think about this. Maybe we should just ask the Islamic fascists why we all can't just get along? Should we simply ask nicely that the 'terrorists' confine themselves to a single country and establish a recognized government if they wish to attack the US so that we may debate their issues with them and maybe offer them some sort of restitution for our alleged wrong doings as a nation? Start small, prove to me that you can make a difference by eliminating road rage from Dallas - then I'll consider your rhetoric on world peace. Until then I'm all for stay the course, stabilize Iraq, stabilize the region, operate in Iraq as a strong ally in the region to influence Iran so that the people have a chance to change for themselves. It's about changing the world. Yes, it is our responsibility and our duty to do so both for the good of the USA and the good of the world. There's no GOOD reason why Iran, Iraq, etc are not responsible world powers that can stand at the table with rest of the world and make an impact on our collective futures in this small world. That wont happen any time soon if we truly cut and run right now.

We stormed into THEIR country, liberated THEIR country, helped them rebuild THEIR country, assisted them in governing THEIR country, turned THEIR country around and they are reclaiming THEIR country...and the bad guys 'still' want to kill us. Hhhhm...what a surprise.

I'll stop for now to keep the anticipated rebuttal to a single page.

kphagen Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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"But like you, I have the freedom to speak my mind, and want it to stay that way." I marched against this war before the invasion. I carried an American Flag. My 13 year old son asked why. I told him that we live in a free country, that the people living under Sadaam are not free to protest, that they'd be shot for doing what we were doing. I have not and do not support this war. Grayhawk asks: "Can you honestly sit there and say that leaving now would be a good thing?" Good question. No, I don't. I'll ask a question back, 'can you honestly say that staying there would be a good thing.' The reasons given for this invasion have not panned out to be accurate. Now we are there, building what? I personally do not feel good about one more American dying over there. I didn't think it was a smart thing to do before, nothing that has happened since has changed my view.

I personally have sent letters and prayers to our servicemen and women. I respect what they are being asked by our country to do. I just don't believe it is in our best interest as a country to ask them to do it.

Bill Holston Verified

2 years, 8 months ago
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Ahhh... This is what I wanted to see. A good debate. To bad 95% of the Middle East can't do things like this without fearing for their lives or that of their families.

Personally I will ALWAYS support our troops even if the Democrats want to tuck their tails between their legs and run home. The troops I have spoken with are disgusted with what the Democrats are currently doing, and tell me what we are doing is the right thing in Iraq. Both in their eyes and the eyes of the Iraqi people. They see what is happening over there everyday. We see what the Liberal news media wants us to see. Who do you believe? I know my answer, do you?

Stay the course! SUPPORT OUR SOLDIERS!

Grayhawk Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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So Grayhawk, first you didn't answer my question. So, I'll ask some more, while I wait on the answer to the first. Second, what does it mean to 'support the troops?' Does it mean that it is unpatriotic to oppose a war, when troops are in the field? Are there any circumstances where it would be an act of patriotism to oppose a war? Finally, as a corollary to the first question, what assurance do we have that the regime which results in Bagdhad that would permit the sort of liberal democracy like the debate that you and I are now engaged in? If I felt any confidence in that I might change my view of this war.

Bill Holston Verified

2 years, 8 months ago
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Grayhawk... 95 percent of the ppl in the Middle East can't do this in part because we've propped up their regimes with arms sales, etc.

And, actually, despite our government's despizing it, and even attempting to kill some of its reporters in Afghanistan, al Jazeera IS making a difference in the Arab world.

SocraticGadfly Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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kphagen: "Rebuilt"? "Turned around"?

Ahh, your dictionary must just be the "W" dictionary, not "Webster's." I'll have to get out my translator's dictionary to make real-world sense of it.

SocraticGadfly Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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Gadfly, you mean the same Al-Jazeera that hires people like Tayssir Alouni? Yeah, they're making a big difference.

Blair Lovern Staff

2 years, 8 months ago
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Bill, first question: Can staying there be a good thing? Bringing freedom to a country that hasn't seen it in such a long time that they don't even know what the definition is. That is a good thing. Giving them a chance to start a government that doesn't kill them by the millions. That is a good thing. Allowing the parents to raise children with the possiblity to become whatever they what to be. That is a good thing. Unfortunatly there are many over there that will stop at nothing to keep it from happening. Alot of these people aren't even Iraqi that are fighting in Iraq. We have all been told the "plan", by our President. But the enemy isn't stupid and is killing innocents to invoke terror to try and stop us. Maybe killing is all they know how to do to get people to listen to them.

Iran, Syria, and others see a HUGE opportunity. Get rid of the American's while the country is still in its infancy stage, so they can gain influence and power there. Remember that NOT ONE Iraqi alive today has ever governed a democracy. They may know it in theory, but not in practice. Give it time, and they will want it as much as we do. I know I would die to keep America free.

Next question, there is a big difference between not liking the war and supporting our troops. If you told me that you didn't like the war, I would agree, I hate war. It it such a waste of precious human life. But in Iraq, our troops fight for the "freedom" of an entire country. They are fighting for what they believe in. The second that you say, "Ok, we can't stop the war, so what we are going to do is stop the funding for it." you aren't supporting the troops. Who will suffer from this decision? OUR TROOPS! Less funds equal more American deaths. They won't have what they need to continue to be on the offensive, and will have to switch to a defensive posture. This will embolden the radicals giving them a chance to regroup, pick and choose where they want to attack next. The civilians will also suffer more. To many times America has gone in and not finish what we have started. It is time that we change that, esp. in the eyes of our enemies.

Grayhawk Anonymous

2 years, 8 months ago
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That's well said Grayhawk. I would agree that all of those things are good. Aside from the fact that this was not the stated reason for this invasion, the remaining question is whether this is what the Iraqi's want. It would seem self-evident to us, but we've got an entirely different mindset, I fear. You say no Iraqi alive has ever governed a democracy. I'll go one more step, no Iraqi living or dead has ever governed a democracy.

The Iraqi's are basically three groups of people. (the fourth, Christians, are fleeing out of there as fast as they can). The were bound together by the arbitrary nation building of the British and have never been a nation. Are there people who want something like democracy? I'm sure there are. I suspect that majority rule will not result in the type of country where I'd be free to practice my religion. Majority rule in Palestine produced the Hamas.

So, I don't really think that any of those goals are realistic. What's realistic? Maybe a more secure place. Perhaps that's what we're fighting for now, but I remain skeptical that this is achievable.

I wish more discourse on this topic was as civil as yours has been

best,

bill p.s.

Come on out this Friday, DOUG Burr is playing all good and that is something we can all agree on!

Bill Holston Verified

2 years, 8 months ago
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Thanks Bill, I will have to take a rain check on that. As I am leaving town this weekend.

All we can do is hope and pray that it peace is achieved in Iraq. Not until the Sunni's and Shiites can work together and resolve their differences, both political and personal, will this happen. If they stand united there is nothing they can't do.