Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

ldupree, says:

"So her claim that she would be fined $10k for that is either based on ignorance, or insincerity."

Not true even the town attorney said the legislation is new and some what unclear on this..

"I think it's clear that you're only getting half of the story here - Ms. Dupree's. And that Ms. Dupree is hesitant to help you get the other side of the story."

Sanders needs to visit the Shelter , there is no other side =(

And to Mike, The large money donations & effort came from Grady Brown.

ldupree, says:

On another note. The shelter only has 5 dog runs & this is a heavy time of year for puppies, kittens and abandoned animals.

Our shelter could use fosters to help us save more animals. If your interested call the Town of Hickory Creek Animal Shelter.

Our pets can be found on petfinder.com use zipcode 75065 as search criteria.

Thank You

mailreader, says:

Contrary to ms Dupree's thoughts the animaml shelter bond lost because the citizens of the town decided that "we the citizens" did not want to spend $600,000.00 for an animal shelter for a town of 5000 persons to house at most no more than a dozen animals at a time. In addition, ms. dupree and her supporters seem to think that only their opinion counts as to what is good for Hickory Creek. That is why the bond failed and the candidates who were in favor of it lost by a 2-1 margin.

One person did not cast all those votes and to insinuate that all those voters were stupid minions who mindlessly followed one man who donated $4500.00 total to the three candidates is ridiculous and elitist.

ldupree, says:

Mailreader wrote: That is why the bond failed and the candidates who were in favor of it lost by a 2-1 margin.

The Facts :

Again not true the bond didnt pass by under 100 votes.

I also dont recall reading anything in the Other candidates literature about being FOR the bond but one. Additionally the 2 -1 candidates that you speak of were openly against the bond, citing the 600,000. I spoke to all three and admittedly not one of them knew what an animal shelter should cost. In other words they had done zero research but still opposed the bond. Im sure it didnt hurt that the individual who funded the majority of their campaign hoopla was opposed as well.

I think you are using fuzzy math how a 80 some vote difference calculates to a 2 to 1 margin out of 900 plus votes equals that, well... your simple arithmetic is quite lacking.

mailreader, says:

Fortunately this is a public blog where you cannot just delete my comments or my membership, like you did on your private site. I seaid that the candidates who support the shelter were defeated by a 2-1 margin.

Once again as i stated on your private site, the citizens of HC are not opposed to an animal shelter just paying too much for one and now we are opposed to being "strong-armed" to provide a private playground.

First you get a slanted story in the Denton-Record Chronicle then on CW33.

As I said then I say now, Why should a town of 5000 people spend $600,000.00 on an animal shelter when we have other needs. The citizens decided NO. It is too much.

ldupree, says:

Mailreader, You were deleted from my site because your comments were obnoxious & misinformed. It is after all my site & I recieved many complaints about you. Your close relatiomship with one of the candidates is showing. Yes, I do know who you are. The only reason you knew this was here is because you continue to troll my site. This isnt a blog about the election its about the shelter. Because I know who you are I also know you do not have the background, interest or expertise to facilitate accurately a cost estimate for a ground up TDH compliant shelter.

We could go into a many city issues that would have addressed the cost of the shelter a 400k over run on the townhall construction all the way down to the small things like 250k of the citys money sitting in a non interest bearing account. Had the money been managed properly this would have been a moot point, had the city planned more proactively we wouldnt be sitting in a shelter thats going to be torn down making knee jerk decisions at the last minute.

The flower mound Shelter is in the millions & state of the art, all we were asking for was adequate. The bond your candidates supported was 450K for a new public works facility. No rigid TDH codes to be followed there a shed for trucks and an office. Your candidate openly supported 450k for a truck shed & an office.

This story link is about the shelter , the fact that its going to be torn down and there basically is no current plan of action. I would hope that you would respect the shelter enough to not try and turn this soley into a post mortem of an election

mailreader, says:

And again who is digressing from the subject. Look how long your post is and not about the shelter. You have had articles written about how the poor shelter is about to be torn down because of the shortsightedness of the citizens to give you $600,000.00 of their personal money so you can run an animal rescue. In essence trying to put a bad light on the Town because you did not get what you wanted. The townspeople VOTED. They said no. And you quit the animal welfair board.

So the people who read this site understand what you are about here are your wortds from your site, "I did leave the board but, I wont ever quit the animals. Im just going to try a new strategy.

wish me luck ...

For my furry friends & friends of the animals." Here is the link http://www.hcforum.talkthis.com/hcfor...

I knew this was here because I am registered to Pegasus news.

As said above I am so glad that this is a public forum. How were my questions to why we need to spend this money obnoxioous? I don't know how many complaints you received from someone asking plain old questions. I never called anyone out, used foul language or anything. But you saw fit to go looking to try and see who I was even doing IP tracing and then posting who you thought I was so that your friends could have a laugh. You even now continue to do so.

As I told you then I do again I am an independant thinker who moved to HC and continue to look a things from an objectiive perspective. I don't know the candidates other than I met them all once(except karen Clarke when they came to my door solicitating votes). I have more than enough expertise to know when perople are trying take my money for their own purposes under the guise of public good. You and others in HC continue to alienate people like me who would like to see HC develop without the partisanship, sniping, hyperbole and snooping.

I hope that HC can get an animal shelter one day, without the likes of you involved.

Look at the facts. It is about other peoples money and you would have the government take it and spend it on you pet project not for the good of the entire town.

mailreader, says:

Teresa Gubbins said: as rawlins gilliland once paraphrased, "you can tell a lot about a [place] by the way they treat their animals." i don't live in hickory creek so i can't speak for what other needs the town has that would take precedence over an animal shelter. (i'm also curious as to what would be considered a good price for an animal shelter, since "mailreader" has deemed $600K to be "too much".) in any case, i admire lisa dupree's efforts to look out for animal welfare and make hickory creek a better place.

There are several options available to the town of 5000 persons for an animal shelter. One of wich was to partner with the other small towns in the area and build a combined shelter, like we have a combined fire system and school. The AW Board which included ms Dupree "deemed" that those options were not good enough.

600K is too much when you consider that the shelter will house at most no more than approximately 1- 1.5 dozen animal at the peak. Most times it is one or two. So we have no need to spend copius amounts of money to do a "If we build it they will come" boondoggle.

600K is too much when we still have road and drainge issues in the town.

600K is too much when you consider that the town is only 5000 persons.

600K is too much when we dont have a good library or parks.

PS where the animal shelter is was until recently the townhall where the city did business. The shelter is NOT in imminent danger of being displaced by the I35 widening project. There is still time for a logical rational solution to be developed.

mailreader, says:

Teresa Gubbins said: as rawlins gilliland once paraphrased, "you can tell a lot about a [place] by the way they treat their animals." i don't live in hickory creek so i can't speak for what other needs the town has that would take precedence over an animal shelter. (i'm also curious as to what would be considered a good price for an animal shelter, since "mailreader" has deemed $600K to be "too much".) in any case, i admire lisa dupree's efforts to look out for animal welfare and make hickory creek a better place.

You can tell alot about a people by how they spend their money and much debt they are willing to incur.

There are several options available to the town of 5000 persons for an animal shelter. One of wich was to partner with the other small towns in the area and build a combined shelter, like we have a combined fire system and school. The AW Board which included ms Dupree "deemed" that those options were not good enough.

600K is too much when you consider that the shelter will house at most no more than approximately 1- 1.5 dozen animal at the peak. Most times it is one or two. So we have no need to spend copius amounts of money to do a "If we build it they will come" boondoggle.

600K is too much when we still have road and drainge issues in the town.

600K is too much when you consider that the town is only 5000 persons.

600K is too much when we dont have a good library or parks.

PS where the animal shelter is was until recently the townhall where the city did business. The shelter is NOT in imminent danger of being displaced by the I35 widening project. There is still time for a logical rational solution to be developed.

twisteddog, says:

Mailreader quoting Teresa Gubbins paraphrasing Rawlins Gilliand describing a quote he once heard said: "600K is too much when you consider that the town is only 5000 persons."
But I believe it was Sartre who said: "Better to have beasts that let themselves be killed than men who run away."

cvandoren, says:

Yes, there is two sides to every story but the person doing the most oppositional talking represents nothing other than their own personal agenda. Ms. Dupree could have said, Mr. Brown contributed large sums of money, hired immigrant labor, hosted numerous meetings and paid large sums of money to advertise his opposition in the local scandle sheet.

Why would he do this?, Let's say that he was under scrutiny by Ms. Dupree and other members of the animal welfare board for the inhumane treatment of his own animals. That issue, by the way, was witnessed by more than one individual. Secondly, Ms. Dupree's father was running for one of the open seats, so what better way to kill two birds with one stone. Finally, Mr. Brown diffinetly wanted yes people in control of the council so he could sell land, build houses and widen roads all for his own financial gain.

It just goes to show that money can buy an election,bring on retaliation, and bring out insecure, unconscious zealots like mailreader to fan the fire. I have lived here for many years and at last count we had about Twenty four hundred residents so maybe mailreader has the wrong town when she suggested 5000. The fact is mailreader has no clue or sympathy for animals, she is only interested in using her bellicose voice to feed her pompous insecurity. There will be an animal shelter at whatever cost because that is what this is all about. There is nothing that mailreader, or should I say malechaser, can do about that.

ldupree, says:

Mailreader, Once again your parroting inaccurate information. You have issues with me , with the shelter, I understood this in the first of 600 sentences. I think people may well understand at this point why I booted you off my site.

If someone was interested in your story Im sure they would write about it, but mean spirited negativity especially when it hurts those who cannot defend themselves well it speaks volumes which is perhaps why you will never use your name when posting.

mailreader, says:

It is so interesting to see where the mean spirited, bellicose, pompous, and have a personal agenda language is coming from. Once again it is because of this type of attitude from segments of the HC population why the town has a hard time progressing. I am not a candidate, related to a candidate, journalist or dog catcher.

ms Dupree I dont know you and dont want to know you, unlike you who have been trying to find out who I am. I don't have anything against you. As I stated many times, my only sin was to ask questions about the entire bond program in order to spur conversation as to the needs of the town. An justification of the sums of money that are being asked for.

The fact that you and your ilk got so hot and bothered about my asking about the animal shelter just confirms to all that this was a "private" "pat yourself on the back" boondoggle to be financed by the public purse. Exactly the kind of thing that we all rail against.

To date all (except two) of the responses to me have been of the kind that seem to threaten, incite and name call all in an attempt to intimidate me to shutup.

As I also said before, lets speak about the issue.

Evandoran said: I have lived here for many years and at last count we had about Twenty four hundred residents so maybe mailreader has the wrong town when she suggested 5000.

I am thankfull for evadoren for correcting me regarding the towns population. It spurred me to go find "Accurate" data that was acceptable to all. The actual count in July 2005 was 3044 persons. http://www.city-data.com/city/Hickory...

This just worsened my projection: $600,000.00 for a towm of 3044 is too much to spend on a animal shelter. That calculates to exactly $197.11 per man, woman and child before interest on a 30 year bond. The average household income in HC is 73,000.00. Where exactly do you suppose that extra 788.44 plus interest is supposed to come from in todays world.

What matters is that I am a citizen of Hickory Creek who decided along with the other voters that 600K is too much. Perhaps if ms dupree would have taken the comments and election in humility, she would have said lets go back and find a solution that the voters will accept. Instead of pandering to the basest of emotions and lashing out against one citizen who voiced their opinion, quitting the board and taking her ball and going home. I cannot speak for the other voters but me and my family have no opposition to an animal shelter in HC per se. Only this one with this cost.

ldupree, says:

Fact the actual projected cost for the shelter was 450.00 k which is all the board asked for. the 150 k is what your mayor tacked on to the top for land which was unnecessary we have land.

450.00k IS NOT too much for a shelter that should last for years to come.

The MAJOR shelter organiztions devised a tool to project cost the TRUE cost was 680k and that was based on 1990 calculations we cut out every possible item to bring it down from 680 to 450. You havent a clue what a shelter should cost. But your candidates were for a 450 k tool shed. Your arguments hold no intelligence. I wish you woulod quit following every single thing I try to do for the animals. You are reaching cyber stalker proportions and it creeps me out. I DO know WHO you are and Im going to send out a blast page so everyone else does too. Im sorry you arent newsworthy and have to rely on jumping in blogs to hear yourself speak.

Im not going to dignify any more of your nastiness.

ldupree, says:

Wow! You people are mean as hell. All of this venom over something so small and insignificant next to the power of the force.

Your right Dylan =) You should try living in this town .. Its like a Stephen King novel gone really wrong.

My apoligies .. I am really grateful that this news org and others did stories on the shelter, There are wonderful people in this world that want to help the animals and my heart goes out to them.

May the force be with you =)

twisteddog, says:

What flavor of cats?

ldupree, says:

Your home = best shelter ever.

This is so True ..... I have three cats as well. Lofts are awsome especiallly those by campisis off of mockingbird ..

I opted for the country but its not really country anymore ..

People who adopt are a blessing some of the coolest animals can be found in shelters. The bonus to that is it puts the puppy mills out of buisness...

cvandoren, says:

Mailreader, perhaps I was a bit hasty with my comments; I believe you can be of use after all. The Tri Cities animal shelter, Ceader Hill,DeSoto and Duncanville are requesting 4.25 million to expand their animal shelter. Remember, I said to expand the shelter, not buy new land, labor, materials, Etc. If my math is correct, that figures to be 1 mil. 400 k and change for each city.

Then we have the Lake Dallas shelter which is goin up for, in excess of 300 k, which does not include the land which was donated and much of the material and labor will be in kind as well. Let's see, that figures out to be, well, use your fingers and toes, I'm sure you can figure it out.

Having said that, and knowing that you seem to be enamored with the reading of you own words, you could start blogging them immediatly. You could inform them about the error of their ways, the needless high cost of this venture and so on. Please do this and keep yourself occupied so that those who truly care , can get on with the business of doing what's right for the animals.

mailreader, says:

Let me help you do the math, evandoren since you are all emotion. The Tricities area has 121,385 persons as of July 2005. 4.25 million divided by the number of persons equals $35.01 per person unlike 197.11 per person as in HC.

Lake Dallas has 7000 persons as of July 2005. You say Lake dallas is spending 300,000.00. That worsks out to 42.86 per person unlike 197.11 as in HC.

Even if I use 450K for hickory creek as has been stated it works out to 147.73 per person for HC.

(Note all math above is before interest).

I noted that you point out that the is a lot of donated materials etc being put into the Lake Dallas shelter. The citizens of HC have never been asked to donate to the animal shelter bulding, we were just asked to open our pocketbooks for someone to take out some money (notice I did not say give). Apparently lake dallas has community spirit that allows them to work together (like they did the sign at the entrace to their town) and not BULLY and harass anyone who has a different opinion.

As noted before, all the Lake Cities ( Hickory creek - which wants a shelter, Lake Dallas which has a tiny one and Corinth which doesn't have one) could have pooled their resources, mobilized their communities for donations, labor etc and built a shelter instead of indivual persons in HC trying to build a monunument to themselves for the wonderful work that they do and get media attention (yes i am being sarcastic).

By the way heres a little math for you - if Lake Dallas and HC went in together and spent 600,000.00 the cost would have been 59.74 per person). If Corinth and Shady shores joined in the cost would DROP to 19.91 per person.

I also find is quite amusing to think that Lake Dallas with double our population is spending much less than Hickory Creek. I know you will say that theirs is not as nice as ours would have been. But you will make my poiint all the same.

If we stop drinking the kool-aid long enough to stop and think as I did and not get all emotional and angry the facts would just jump out at you.

mailreader, says:

ldupree wrote: I wish you woulod quit following every single thing I try to do for the animals. You are reaching cyber stalker proportions and it creeps me out.

For the record you joined this board on may 29, 2007, I joined on May 14. So who is following whom. I have been following this site for some time now.

It is disgusting how some persons who cannot talk about an issue on its merits. They always degenerate into name calling, bullying and intimidation tatics, or get emotional.

When I started this discussion back before the election I WANTED to be convinced that asking for that amount of money was in the greater good of the town. Just like the other bond items. At this time I am totally convinced that it isn't. I still think we need a shelter like we needed a townhall but not the shelter as proposed.

ldupree, says:

You would think that people like you who dont want to pay for a shelter would welcome the fact that the issue was getting visibility maybe the attention will get outside help. But people like you do your best to sabatoge this is well. This isnt ABOUT YOU its about needing a shelter but NOOOOO you have to jump in and start blowing your horn,,, Thats just hateful in my opinion.. And your comments about picking up my things and going home, Im accomplishing more now than I ever was on the board. I wouldnt follow you anywhere, ever.

Do you think I contacted these news outlets you mentioned ? Well I didnt they contacted me all of them You see there are people in the world that actually care and put sweat and hard work into making a difference you just continue to try to hurt the cause .. ..Okay so you were registered first , I can believe that you spend your days trolling sites looking for place to inject your opinion. Why dont you roll up your sleeves and do something beneficial for the city. Or how about volunteering to wash the , urine , vomit and feces covered bedding from the cat room in your home appliances like the volunteers currently do because people like you dont think the cost is worth it.

Nothing can convince you ,, you dont listen I have spent the time outlining the details on my site .. I believe the shelter will happen without you dropping one red cent into it and we wlll all be happier because you may go away and quit bashing the cause. Your not hurting me your hurting the animals and perhaps one of the best AC officers there is by saying I dont think you deserve a decent place to work and care for these animals. Based on TDH compliance requirements decent is all your gonna get for 450.

Private playground , obviously you are clueless about what happens in shelters there is not anything pleasant or happy about that situation. In fact shelters are downright depressing to be in as a human but heaven sent for the animals who are beaten starving and abandoned

We are as close to a no kill shelter as it gets we have five dog runs, but you think nothing is in imminent danger. Well so you volunteer to do the fatal injection to dog , puppy or kitten number seven because our shelter is overrun and out dated by twenty years. You see what its like to have to make the decisions like that all the time ..pick who lives who dies because people like you think five dog runs will do and TDH compliant infrastructure is just too much of a cost burden for you. BUT 450k for a tool shelter is okay .. go figure. Here you go this is dedicated to you ! http://www.fileupyours.com/files/9877...

cvandoren, says:

Mailreader, you've done it once again. Your math talks about a minimal amount for each tri city resident as opposed to H.C. But you fail to address that this is an expansion, not a new facility. If it were, the cost would be about 4 times what it is now. That's upwards of 20 mill. You are good about omitting key information but so very lame when it comes time for you to address issues in a realistic manner. You have got to be out of meds or your riding on the edge, one or the other. You have a one track mind that hasn't fully developed; I would say some where around 14 or 15 and you ability to read and assimilate has dipped below the danger line. Get a life or get some help, you now totally bore me.

cvandoren, says:

Mr. Jones, thank you, thank you, thank you. We are now getting down to the real issue. wonderful pic, for me it's in the eyes. May God watch over the little canine tyke.

ldupree, says:

Who will take care of me now?

I will gorgeous <3 !! Minnie has my digits ;-)

byarb, says:

Dupree, keep up the good work, my friend. The city of Irving recently passed a $6M bond for the development of a new animal shelter. Our city leaders are proud of our reputation and it is their desire to have a state-of-the-art facility to match Irving's legend.

I am part of a group who partners with the city animal shelter in helping them get everything they need to push forward in a positive direction for the animal citizens on our town. Snaps and Kudos to city leaders who realize we live in a world where abuse and neglect of animals are no longer tolerated, and where citizens easily recognize the importance of focusing on an aging shelter, and the need for a new facility to bring comfort and protection to every animal citizen who crosses the portals until they are united with a lifetime family.

Good for you.....S-A-L-U-T-E!

ldupree, says:

Byarb, Thank you for your kind comments. Well done on getting the bond passed =) I wish our city leaders viewed the shelter with as much priority & pide as the Irving council.

Bless you & all the lives you will be able to save.

ldupree, says:

Our shelter is full again... Anyone have some love to spare? http://search.petfinder.com/shelterSe...

roguek99, says:

Reading all of this would make me want to pack and move as fast as I can. I am also fairly new to HC but I did vote and I do think 600K was too much for a shelter. Not because I think the animals are not worth it...wrong! It is because the way contracts are cherry picked to buddys. Look at our overbudget town hall. What a JOKE! We have police cars breaking down every week!The reason the animal shelter was voted down 2-1 is that we don't trust these snakes with our money. I love my home and I will be here for a long time but you people are missing the big picture!