Monday, November 19, 2007
Dallas placing new focus on bicycles as commuting alternative
DALLAS Dallas urban-planning types have set their sights on encouraging commuters to consider bicycling as an option.
Construction will begin next summer on the four remaining portions of the Cottonwood Creek Trail that would eventually link downtown Dallas to trains in Collin County. It's expected to take a year to finish. And Dallas has started the process for the East Dallas Veloway, linking Fair Park to the White Rock Lake trail. The city of Dallas also intends to extend the Katy Trail to proposed trails along the Trinity River.
This excellent story by Joe Simnacher at the DMN (which has a cool photo of a bicycle commuter taken by Jim Mahoney) also says that DART is upgrading bicycle lockers at rail and some bus centers; allowing bicycles on buses and trains at all hours; and installing bike racks on its bus fleet and at bus stops.
This would be good news but it sounds like it's coming from people who don't actually ride bicycles or commute with them first-hand. That's certainly the impression you get if you ride your bike to a train station or try to commute with it. To wit:
1. Getting your bike on and off the train is a royal pain that frequently annoys other commuters.
2. There's no official space alloted for bicycles; they have to compete for space with handicapped riders and mothers with baby carriages who, I'm sorry, are both oblivious and simultaneously pushy.
3. There's not enough room on most trains for the bicycles being dragged on currently.
4. Most train stations have lousy bike racks. Few -- if any -- are covered. Which forces bicyclists to risk leaving their bikes exposed to the elements.
Posted by T.G.
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kirk, says:
All good points, T.G. Also: apparently, none of these veloproponents have ever tried riding a bicycle in Dallas' 100+-degree weather.
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Andrew Laska, says:
I greatly admire TG. That said, I have to disagree being a rider who uses the train to go from a suburban location to downtown almost everyday.
Let me address these points: 1) A person certainly has to carry their bike onto the train and move it to the open portions of the end of the train. However, I've not often seen this as all that difficult. I've seen it cause no more trouble than someone carrying luggage. It certainly would become a problem if there were masses of bikes brought on board but at this time there is no problem.
2) That there is no alloted space is a matter of opinion. There is a huge gap between the first seats and the door at the end of the train where. That gap seems to work fine. As for the comment about competition, I've seen very little overage of women with strollers, wheelchairs, and bicycles. For all the times I've seen at least one of those on a train (which is frequent) I've maybe seen two occasions where it was too crowded because of bikes, stroller, wheelchairs and so on.
3) This point makes no sense as all the trains are the same. As long as the person doesn't try to bring it in the middle door everything will be fine. There is no "most trains." There is all or none.
4) Most suburban stations have bike lockers so they are covered by default. A commuter going to a destination like downtown (which seems to be a the biggest destination for suburban commuters) would take their bike to their jobs and therefore wouldn't need lockers. Further, if DART expands bike lockers and racks (as the story indicates) then the complaints about not having enough room on trains themselves is nullified.
Austin has had bike carriers on buses for years and it seems to work great. It seems DART is taking this step.
Andrew
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Brett Hoerner, says:
What time do you ride the rail, Andrew?
I think in regards to (1) and especially (3) she's talking about different 'trains' meaning each specific one at a specific time (they are very different beasts). The 7 am or 8 am train is going to be a LOT more busy than the other trains...
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Montgomery Sutton, says:
It's certainly going to take a lot of work to get the bicycle facilities to where they need to be, but I'm glad for each step along the way.
I'm living in Paris through the end of the year, and would love to see Dallas--some ways down the line; probably wouldn't make sense for at least another decade--employ some variation on the theme of the Velib system now running here. Especially with these past couple of Metro strikes, the Velibs have really helped to curb the chaos.
Any thoughts on whether such a system would be practical in Dallas anytime in the next quarter century?
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John McClelland, says:
DART should also be looking into providing more park and ride facilities.
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Andrew Laska, says:
Brett,
I ride in the 7AMish time frame.
Monty,
By Velibs I assume you mean the rental bicycle system? I don't see that on any transit planning horizon. I've seen that effort in Paris and it is impressive.
One thing we are seeing in the Dallas area is a strong effort of trail connections. "Trail" is a misnomer. What they mean is a series of interconnected paved byways which is separate but overlaying the urban areas. For example, some might follow DART rail right of ways or large scale electric utility easements. This will make is possible to travel long distances without traveling on surface streets (or very little.) Its going to take years but pieces are coming together.
Andrew
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mannytmoto, says:
I don't know how much of an issue the temperature is to riders who commute to work. I might be the exception, but I rarely ride at the 100-degree-hottest-point-of-the-day (noon to 5pm). The few times I've ridden to work, I've left the house before sunup, at around 6:30AM, since my ride takes longer than a car commute, and after 5:30PM. The temperature at those times is rarely over 90 degrees, excluding maybe a couple of weeks in August.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
More "trail" connections would be pretty great. As it is, I absolutely hate riding on the street - I have zero faith in my fellow man not to doze off / answer a phone / sip a latte / put on make-up without smearing me into the curb. And sidewalks around where I live frequently just sort of stop randomly for no good reason.
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Scott Doyle, says:
Pavel, you work a 5-minute bike ride from your apartment.
I concur with John McClelland on this one. Anybody know if there's any steps being taken to improve the option which the vast majority of people would actually use?
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Pavel Lishin, says:
That doesn't mean I don't want to bike around town without shivering every time a car passes me.
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kirk, says:
Remember to wear your helmet.
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Clay213, says:
Commuters don't really ride on bike 'trails.' Bike trails are great for recreational cyclists, rollerbladers, baby suvs, and pedistrians.. not really someone trying to get to work.
If Dallas really wants to promote cycling as alternate transportation they should stop harassing cyclists who aren't wearing helmets, and educate drivers and cyclists how to properly drive and cycle.
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Montgomery Sutton, says:
I usually ride without a helmet, and have yet to be harrassed.
I do agree, though, that while the bike trails are great we really need an increase in bike lanes along the roads. Seems to me those can be defined much more quickly than building entire biking/jogging paths, and they're going to make adding bikes into the normal transit mix even easier.
That said, I do think there is the potential for the trail system to become in essence the "highway" for bicyclers in DFW. But as far as the most practical purpose of bikes in commuting--taking your bike to the nearest mass transit station--bike lanes are infinitely more practical and important.
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Andrew Laska, says:
Re: Trails.
Clay said,"Commuters don't really ride on bike 'trails.'"
Comments like these show why a lot of education needs to be done.
Of course, it wouldn't be the favored now because the interconnecting system isn't in place yet. Nor would it mean that cyclists would never ride a surface street.
Consider this, if you wanted to ride to work, and your choices were these:
100% Dallas area surface streets, OR 50% trails and 50% surface streets with possibly reducing overall distance and reducing encounters with intersections which would you take?
Monty said, "we really need an increase in bike lanes along the roads." Actually in many (perhaps most) cases this might not be easier. It requires diving into complex issues dealing with transportation and street policy. If a road needs to be widened then land must be acquired. This doesn't solve the problems of major intersections. You might run into federal and state legal issues. With lanes the cyclists are exposed to traffic, the lanes require more maintenance, and they are mostly single use whereas the paths promote multi-uses. Lanes are likely more expensive but I don't know that for sure.
There is a known need to increase bike lanes amongst some municipal leaders. During the last May election, I was running around to various precinct polling places. I ran into a particular rather conservative politician while hanging out outside. It was slow and a few people were around chatting. He looked up and down the road and completely out of context in any jabbering that was going on he said, "We really need a bike lane on this street." It shows to me that some leaders are paying attention.
Andrew
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James Scott, says:
I completely Agree with Andrew...I have never commuted to work, as this would involve a death-ride down Northwest Highway and the Tollway (possibly Inwood as a substitute for the Tollway, but I'm not taking any chances). It's about a 13 mile drive, which I could see increasing to around 15-20 with an alternative bike route - if there were such a thing. And if there were, I could conceivably imagine riding it as an alternative to driving. Otherwise, there's no way I would ever everyday ride on a busy street (with or without bike lanes).
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incognato, says:
I used to bike commute in Chicago about 14 miles round trip. They have bike lanes on all the major roads that most drivers respect up there. I never rode in major heat, and I drew the line at 18 degrees. But, it worked--often faster than CTA.
The major issue with Dallas is the feasibility of bike lanes vs. bike trials. Bike lanes are more convenient, but pose a danger in Dallas. Bike trails are relatively safe, but they are tucked away. In Chicago, traffic kept cars from ever reaching high speeds, unlike many streets here (Inwood, Northwest Highway and the Toll). So, the bike lane wasn't scary. I think James is right. I shudder thinking about riding on those roads he mentioned in rush hour.
And the nature of Dallas (I think someone pointed out this city was mostly designed after the invention of the car, unlike Chicago) does make it a real challenge. I predict it's going to take a bunch of baby steps like this to get the pedals moving.
Oh, and I wear a helmet. I don't think there should be a law or harassment about helmets--I've just invested too much in my brain and I don't like eating through straws...
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Pavel Lishin, says:
Heh, rush hour is the safest time to ride - it's like biking through a parking lot.
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bearof46, says:
After three years of commuting by bicycle, I believe the cities, DART and the Council of Governments should be spending more resources on education -- of cyclists, motorists and employers/building managers. Too many cyclists ride on sidewalks, ignore traffic signs and signals and operate against traffic. Motorists don't realize that a cyclist in the lane is the same as a car in the lane: You don't pass until you can pass safely. Most people find it difficult to commute by bicycle and be presentable in the work place, especially when there are no showers and lockers available at the job. These days, I use a combination of bicycle (5 mi.) and bus (16 mi.) each way, and I get a lot of "he's a freak" glances from my suburban neighbors because I wear practical cycling clothing on the bus rides and change into and out of office attire in a restroom at the job. Long story short, we need buildings and parking that accommodate cycling. Cost of building or remodeling will still be a lot cheaper than the next 10 parking slots for SOVs.
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Clay213, says:
"After three years of commuting by bicycle, I believe the cities, DART and the Council of Governments should be spending more resources on education -- of cyclists, motorists and employers/building managers. Too many cyclists ride on sidewalks, ignore traffic signs and signals and operate against traffic. Motorists don't realize that a cyclist in the lane is the same as a car in the lane: You don't pass until you can pass safely."
This is exactly what I am talking about.
We don't need 'bike lanes' or anything like them. More often than not the cities planning bike lanes get them wrong anyway, and they end up being more dangerous than just riding properly.
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Clay213, says:
Also:
I ride a bike in the downtown area everyday. I have no major problems in doing so.
The things that would improve my riding experience are things like reducing aggressive driving-- which would be good for everyone not just me.
Seriously though, if cities want to make cycling more appealing, then people need to stop trying so hard to make it seem dangerous or difficult.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
I'll be dead and cold in the ground when I start biking on the road with cars while there's an empty side walk right next to me - probably because some jerk hit me. My thinking is as follows: 1. On average, there's less chance for injury if i hit a guy while on my bike than if a car hits me while I'm on my bike. 2. As bear pointed out, people in cars don't know anything about bikes. Hell, people have honked at me before and I've nearly gone tumbling into a ditch from the surprise of it. 3. I love living.
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DC, says:
Didn't we just have a big vote for more toll roads?? Screw bikes and buses, Dallas said, give us toll roads!!
Besides bike paths we'll probably need mandatory showers in all public buildings. Since it's November, we must be forgetting that it's hot as Hades here most of the time.
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Clay213, says:
Pavel:
It's a good thing you wear that helmet.. because riding on the sidewalk is the best way to get seriously injured or killed riding a bicycle.
Not to mention it's illegal in most places.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
Why is it that much more dangerous? Because there's more stuff I can run into?
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Clay213, says:
The biggest reason it's more dangerous is because you are moving faster than a person driving a car can react or is looking for when you cross a street.
Turning cars, cars backing out of driveways, etc etc etc
http://www.kenkifer.com/bikepages/tra...
Is probably the best and most thorough explanation of what to do right, and what people do wrong when cycling.
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