Monday, August 4, 2008
Fly A Sim at DFW Airport gives the public a chance to climb into the cockpit
DALLAS Ever dreamed of being a pilot? Or maybe you’re just a thrill-seeker. Thanks to Carrollton-based company Fly A Sim, the cockpit is no longer off limits. Fly A Sim is one of the few organizations in the nation that provides the general public with the opportunity to fly an actual jet simulator.
The experience starts with a drive to the Flight Safety International Learning Center, a world class aviation facility, located at DFW Airport. After signing in and meeting your flight instructor, you’re led to the preflight briefing room, where you spend the next hour learning fundamental information about take-off and landing procedures. “Don’t worry about remembering all of it in an hour,” said Charley Shepard, founder of Fly A Sim, “I’ll be right in there with you.”
Photo by Amy Seslowsky
Shepard has over thirty years of aviation experience working as a flight instructor and pilot for Pan American World Airways. Currently, he is a flight instructor for Southwest Airlines. “That’s my day job. [Fly A Sim] is my passion,” he said.
Fly A Sim has access to three out of the sixteen jet flight simulators actually used to train pilots. “The Fly A Sim event is not an amusement ride or passive experience for you,” states the official website, “Our full flight simulator offers your senses the realistic sound, motion and visuals of flying.” The jet simulators rest on six legs powered by hydraulics. Inside is an exact replica of the jet’s cockpit, and outside is a screen displaying realistic terrain and weather.
Prices range from $299 for a shared experience with another customer to $699 for a full hour of individual piloting. Fly A Sim also provides team-building events for local corporations and has donated its services to charity auctions for organizations such as Habitat for Humanity. “We get husbands bringing their wives, fathers bringing their sons or daughters, companies bringing their staff. There’s a lot of variety,” Shepard said.
Photo by Amy Seslowsky
During the flight, you practice taking off and landing at different locations. Depending on your progress, the flight instructor slowly increases the degree of difficulty in terms of visibility and approach patterns. If you forget a step, the flight instructor is there with knowledge and a laser pointer to show you exactly what lever to pull or button to press. Crashing is possible, but most people get the hang of it after one mishap.
Even in this age of technology and hyperrealistic video games, it’s easy to forget that you were never actually six thousand feet above ground level. When your flight is over, you’re given time to recover. Then, after a brief photo-op, you’re presented with a certificate of completion, your flight pattern chart and your very own Fly A Sim hat.
Though Fly A Sim might seem as if it caters to a niche customer base, the company has had over one thousand customers since forming five years ago. In fact, “We’re thinking about expanding,” said Shepard.
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jtmbls, says:
Oh great! Why not just name the course Hijacking 101?
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1 year, 4 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
DC, says:
I'll bet for $700 you could probably get to actually go somewhere without some old man lasering you in the eyeballs.
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1 year, 4 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
chasbeme, says:
jtmbls & DC, instead of showing off your immaturity and ignorance, why don't you actually learn about the topic before imposing on the pegasus community with dimwitted childish insults. Ask a nearby adult for guidance.
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1 year, 3 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
Collin Gouldin, says:
thanks mom!!
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1 year, 3 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
DC, says:
If we can find some that aren't just old cranks that can't punctuate, we'll get right on it.
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Scott Doyle, says:
More importantly, chasbeme, would you mind educating all of us from your high horse of wisdom? Is there that much more to learn about the topic than is reported here and/or assumed?
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1 year, 3 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
Jason Rice, says:
Actually, these simulators are pretty stunning. I'm not 100% positive the model pictured, but I'm pretty sure I worked on one. The optics are good enough to fool you even if the graphics may or may not be.
These are honkin' pieces of machinery that can throw your butt against the wall and break an arm if you're not careful. So yeah - turbulence like you'd get in a Texas thunderstorm.... can do.
Granted the graphics are not as sharp as are available on some newer models, but the optics are amazing. Enough so that if you spend real time in the sim you will forget what the real versions of some of the models look like. If the model they use is a Rediffusion/Hughes WIDE (looks like it, but I'm kinda rusty) -- whoobaby $700 is a deal for a real foamer (ancient slang for plane enthusiast).
Ok, I'm an old crank and my punctuation slips... but truly, until you've seen what a full-up sim can do, NOBODY should be able to blame you for some serious skepticism. I'd think it was BS too, except for several hundred hours in the darned things.
Even without a motion base slamming a whole room around at half a G I've panicked genuine flight hardened pilots with a bad approach. They're not familiar with Pause and Reset buttons in that real world they live in.
This kind of event isn't for most folks. $700 is steep to see if you'd like it. But that's not really their market. It's a dang expensive toy for people that appreciate dang expensive toys.
Chas - really - you can't blame the kids for wrinklin' their noses. With a copy of FSX on their desktop they have good reason to doubt --- Till you've seen these optics and felt the whole dang room throw you around. Dang! It sounds like malarkey.
But guys - it's cool.
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jtmbls, says:
I’ll bet that it is cool - And comforting as well. I know I will fly better knowing any nimrod with psychotic fantasies about killing thousands of innocent people will feel equipped and emboldened for a small investment of just $700. I hope, at the very least, they are performing background checks. If not I would have to consider that highly irresponsible.
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Jason Rice, says:
Jtmbsl - anything I can do to make your final moments more pleasant. That's what I'm here for.
And frankly, the info they would give out as a "pilot" is readily available on a dozen desktop flight sim enthusiast sites and in several software packages you can readily snag at Best Buy or steal via p2p.
I can't imagine a real baddie would want their name on the register at Fly A Sim. Face it, if anybody was ever gonna be on a watch list, there's probably be a webcam trained at these guys' front door. I'm sure they're waaay straight up about things.
Just getting into the facilities can be a HUGE hassle from a liability standpoint. A sim malfunction can kill people and a hydraulic leak can cut a hole through you, so I'm thinkin' they're gonna dot their i's and cross their t's.
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DC, says:
Oh, I don't know about all this emboldening stuff.
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1 year, 3 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
chasbeme, says:
Jason Rice very wise man. We know the fine folks over at Fly A Sim. The Fly A Sim event is not flight training. Even so, all customers at Fly A Sim for short fun flights adhere to the Federal Security Regulations designed by the FTTFT, Federal Terrorist Tracking Taskforce For Training, and must be US Citizens, and must present their original US Passport. Those are the same regulations followed by AMR, UAL and CAL for their actual pilot training. Additionally, the Fly A Sim event intentionally does not present information regarding airplane performance,navigation, locating radio frequencies, dme, lnav, vnav, rnp, gps, enroute charts. That means you can't get 'there' from 'here'. All that Fly A Sim customers will be able to do on an airplane once they stop smiling from their Fly A Sim experience is say, "I'll have the granola bar please." Customers include MicroSoft Flight Simulator pilots, Radio Control Pilots, Wannabe Pilots, Retired Pilots, Future Pilots, Husbands and Wives, Fathers and Sons or Daughters and Good Buddies having fun. 100% of the customers say, "Wow, it's just like we're flying!" Fly A Sim customers range in age from 7 to 77. Some too young for this forum yet they accomplished the Fly A Sim event. This is a rare opportunity and great local aviation event, offered at a world class aviation training facility, facilitated by instructors from major airlines, offered well below market value prices, a safe extreme adventure that customers enjoy year after year. Local corporations present the Fly A Sim event to their Employees as Team Building or Corporate Rewards. Those of you who, like myself, have enjoyed the Fly A Sim experience will understand. Jason Rice has got it going on. For those of you who sit safely in your comfy chair, at your non-moving desk, at a non-moving easily controlled keyboard....can you fly the same full motion, full sound and full visual flight simulators that the real pilots fly, some of you can handle it, some of you cannot, do you have the right stuff, if so step forward, if not, stand down and type on dudes :)…..have a nice day.
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Scott Doyle, says:
We know the fine folks over at Fly A Sim.
Ya don't say?
For the record, if I had $700 that meant absolutely nothing to me I'd definitely give it a go. Here in the real world, that's more than my rent.
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jtmbls, says:
Good to know. Mummy and Daddy told me to say thank you.
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1 year, 3 months agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
Jason Rice, says:
*Here in the real world, that's more than my rent.*
...Or an iPhone for a year. It's all about priorities.
Glad someone weighed in on this story. Looks interesting.
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Scott Doyle, says:
I'm happy to report I'd rather have a year's worth of communication than an hour in a fake cockpit.
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jtmbls, says:
Cheap AND feisty! Love it!
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David Gouldin, says:
ScoDo, I'm surprised that didn't break your "no line breaks = no read" rule. You made it all the way to the 2nd sentence!
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Jason Rice, says:
I think Scott deserves commendation. That was very courteous.
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Scott Doyle, says:
Believe me, it crossed my mind. Figured I'm already enough of a jerk in this thread that I didn't need to go there, but since we're here...
I've narrowed the scope of my no line breaks rule to subjects I'm interested in. =p
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Pavel Lishin, says:
I don't know about $700, but I think my dad would actually like this. He's a pilot, and I bet he'd get a kick out of it.
Hopefully it'll still be available around his birthday.
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jtmbls, says:
Uh, wouldn't that be like making him work on his birthday?
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Alex Bentley, says:
Love you, Dad, but pretty sure I'm never giving you a $700 birthday gift. If that means Pavel's better than me, so be it.
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jtmbls, says:
I was just thinking I should stop teasing him about his mohawk and focus instead on his generous nature. My birthday is in March. Just fyi.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
He's not a commercial pilot, and I don't think he's actually flown a plane take-off-to-landing in several years - but he loves flying, and I think he'd enjoy the chance to pilot a (simulated) jet.
Jtmbls: So's mine. Guess who I'm gonna spend more money on? :P
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DC, says:
I wonder if they had to edit the guys' comments like: "Training real pilots is boring and monotonous. They'll get the hang of it eventually. Letting some middle manager say cock-pit all day, now that's fun!"
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chasbeme, says:
The Fly A Sim event is normally available for $299. They are even offering a Hot August Special at $249. Why are you all fixated on $700 ?
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David Gouldin, says:
"Prices range from $299 for a shared experience with another customer to $699 for a full hour of individual piloting."
I think they're "fixated" on the full hour of individual piloting.
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Jason Rice, says:
David - It's not just an "on switch." I have to think they're (maybe) squeaking by with just an hour billing to cover costs. Lots and lots and lots of red tape every time the motion base is engaged. Frankly, I'd hate to run that kind of a money-losing obsession.... and if you know me, you know THAT is saying something.
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David Gouldin, says:
Not making any judgment calls on relative value there. Just citing the source of the $700 figure.
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Brett Hoerner, says:
I agree. I also assumed based on the $299 being a shared cockpit price that "$249 special" assumes you're sharing the space.
How much does it cost for an hour of time piloting a real plane? Safety hazards aside I assume a simulation would have to beat the price?
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Jason Rice, says:
Good point. I can't find lots of places with rates online but these guys at Meacham Field get abotu $100 an hour plus pilot for a Cessna.
For a jet (a little more apple to apples maybe since that's the pitch here) these guys start at about $2k an hour.... and I'm betting you don't get to steer.
Can't find any joyride jet guys. I know they must be out there, but I exhausted my savvy on this about two postings ago.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
I doubt there are places that let random people without a pilot's license fly something the size of a 747. If you really want that, stay in school, work hard, become a millionaire, and buy your own.
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