Driver deliberately hits four soccer players after fight in Dallas dance club

Pavel Lishin, says:

I guess I think of it as being Deep Ellum.

alexander troup, says:

Very close to the freeway and on the edge in time as a hangout, now in it's 18 year maybe....old lizards sometimes dont shed skin too well to become.....anew..? A/T, Harpsecord installer.

Scott Doyle, says:

Considering how shallow the pool of Deep Ellum venues has become, I'd think there's no issue lumping LL in. =p

alexander troup, says:

I agree also...It is now THE LIMPING DEEP ELM ,or on the turfs edge... and yes it is true,the watering hole is getting shallow..too low...A/T.

Travis Bush, says:

Lizard Lounge has always been considered a part of Deep Ellum.

Scott Doyle, says:

Well, it's easily within walking distance of Elm & Good Latimer on the east side of 75 . Everytime I've gone to LL I considered it heading to Deep Ellum...but that's obviously coming from someone who missed its wonder years and never lived in that area.

Geeeeeeeez, TG!

alexander troup, says:

And that sounds about right, it is near Hawkins Street,which used to empty out to Pearl and Preston by the old Central Railroad, the old depot was about a block from the area and Behilarz Stoneyard was in back of the old building that Became the Lizard Lounge, which in the 80's was this wild strip joint.....That moved to the West End and was shut down...does Deep Elm stop and divide today at Live Oak by the Hispanic Cultural Center, and bounded by Baylor, then bounded to the south..while it seems to end at the Sons of Herman......old Watering holes...A/T. City Planner for the Water District.

Travis Bush, says:

*but that's obviously coming from someone who missed its wonder years and never lived in that area.*

Yeah back when all the punk street kids lived in the big house on Good Latimer and the rave drugs came fresh/uncut from Houston or San Francisco..I guess now people just get cranked up or cranky on booze and run over the visiting team.

Scott Doyle, says:

FWIW, I've seen TG's navigational skills of downtown and surrounding areas first hand - I'd sooner trust her judgment on this than my own. She simply took the initial joke a bit personally, and perhaps rightfully so. If were watching a unique area once considered my stomping grounds falter, I'd get upset about it too.

As someone who frequents Dallas night life while trying to avoid uptown, preppy clubs, etc...I still can't think of a time when I said "Hey, I should go check out Deep Ellum tonight!" Only visits in recent memory was a PN showcase at Dada and walking over to the area after visiting Pearl.

It's all trivial, imo - hopefully TG knows I was just goofing around (as normal).

Scott Doyle, says:

And an attempt to rerail: Do we have an update with condition of the soccer players? "Mowing down" sounds pretty serious...hope they're all recovering well.

Chris Kidd, says:

Im still an ellum resident and enjoy the fact we dont have all the kris-kris a-hole traffic that uptown gets. As for LL, its still a pretty decent place, as I caught Mobys set there a few weeks back.