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Tuesday, January 29, 2008

Cosmo Rouge bites the dust

— According to their website, Cosmo Rouge, the fanciest dining room west of Bishop -- is closed until further notice.



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Rob Shearer, says:

Can you be west of Bishop when you are actually located on Bishop? Maybe the fanciest dining room west of Hattie's, although I bet Kavala would like to be in that running.

A new family style pizza place will be filling the space that Cosmo's leaves empty. I would expect you to see activity there in less than a week.

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luniz, says:

Kavala's not that fancy. Anyway I wouldn't have called Cosmo either upscale or an eatery.

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Billusa99, says:

Regardless of what it's called, we called it "fun."

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JW Richard, says:

Rob, is that the official word that's going to be a pizza place? While that would be cool, don't we already have Vitto's?

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Susan Thornton, says:

Vitto's has gone downhill steadily, though I have been a very loyal patron for years (love their spinach bacon pizza). I don't think Cosmo Rouge ever really fit in, but I had several really lovely cosmos there. But, I don't think "family" style pizza would fit in either. Wouldn't want to take any business away from Pizza Patron...

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Rob Shearer, says:

Yes, the pizza restaurant is the official word. But I don't think it will at all compare with a Pizza Patron. The bar will stay and the menu will change. I trust they'll change those chairs too, but who knows.

Suddenly we're surrounded by a nice selection of Italian oriented eateries... the old standby of Vitto's, the new Cafe Italia and the brand new Oak Cliff Pizza and Pasta, and now the new restaurant filling Cosmo.

Should be interesting!

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Susan Thornton, says:

Hi Rob. It was the "family" part of the description that fazed me. Now, lots of Oak Cliffites are "family," but that's a different story. I've lived in Oak Cliff over a dozen years, and sometimes I'm a smart aleck. Hope the new place is a success! Any verdict on Oak Cliff Pizza and Pasta? Do you have to park on the street (eek!)?

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Scott Miller, says:

Will the new pizza place do valet parking?

The way I heard it while I was there, at Jingle Bells on Bishop, the reason they didn't just close off two blocks of Bishop Street and cops kept coming thru and getting all authoritarian shooing people up on the sidewalks is because Cosmo Rouge wouldn't budge on their valet parking. Had it not been for them Bishop would have been closed off for two blocks and we would have had a genuine street festival. Cosmo didn't make any friends with any of the neighbors for their efforts and apparently they didn't adequately increase their customer base either.

You can put this down as third party hearsay- but my it's my understanding.

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Spearsie, says:

I was so sad when I heard the news about Cosmo Rouge. We stumbled upon it by accident and have had wonderful experiences ever since: the food -incredible, the service -amazing (Matthew!), and the atmosphere-so enjoyable. Their brunch was amazing too. I only wish now that I had gone more frequently. Does anyone know if the owner of Cosmo Rouge has plans to open another restaurant in Dallas or where Matthew is now???

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Burton Cleveland, says:

Hi, Susan! Oak Cliff Pizza is quite good! Good pie at reasonable prices. Oh, and the folks who work in/run the place are of the nicest sort.

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mitch_pyles, says:

We have lived in O.C. for 19 years and are now re-thinking our move back to N. Dallas because of simple minded attitudes (some)regarding the closing of C.Rouge. Their primary based came from N.Dallas. They're in the midst of opening the 3rd location. I am not sure of the 3rd local having the same name, but same food, etc. I am a consultant for restaurants and Cosmo Rouge was one of the best in town. There were several bids for that concept. Regarding Jingle Bells (earlier writer)- My wife works for the City of Dallas. The C.R. management only voiced concerns regarding the street closing due to a number of physically challenged people who could not make their reservations during the previous year. (22) elderly people hosting a dinner there that year could not make their way to the entrance. I've been in the meetings regarding the local buzz regarding that miscommunication and it disgusted me that way people misinterpreted the whole thing. C.R. owner was one of the biggest financial supporters if you were to do your homework regarding the festival and contributions in the area. Additionally, field data had it as one of the highest producing restaurants in O.C. bringing more out of area traffic/people we desperately need to keep this area fluid. I'm sorry to go on and on, but not knowing the owner personally I believe in knowing the facts before passing false information like the Mayberry idiots around my fair neighborhood. By the way, I would have sold as well if it sold for what I understand it to have sold for a few months back. The concept is being solicited by private groups as I write. The official word is closed to 1.5m. Nonetheless, like it or not, there are a core group of foodies who are all over the web now stating that there's little need to go back to B.Arts with restaurants like C.R. leaving the area. I'm a fan of all the restaurants/shops in the area. I'm prefer some over the other, but we remain open minded enough irrespective of my working knowledge of the business that it makes sense for places like this to stay around. Their weekend business was phenomenal, and raked in more than most of the spots in mere food sales. Checking out the public reports the food sales were far greater than the alcohol sales at C.R. This is the kind of place we can only hope fills that space. Again, sorry guys, but lies and rumors really hit a nerve this morning. By the way, the folks at Monica's and a few of the owners at Nick & Sams are bidding on the C.R. concept. I'm sure the less traveled and experienced critics wouldn't like those concepts either. We'll be cheering the current and new players on, but will miss this spot that North Dallas is chopping at the bits to acquire in several developed areas. Let's (not all), but those never visiting with the actual players in order to confirm such stories, be a tad more friendlier to our new neighbors. Take care neighbors!

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mitch_pyles, says:

Spearsie: I believe the CR owner (also the property owner) sold the property (which was what triggered the closing of Cosmo Rouge). I hear the investment group set a record for the area. I've tried to reach the owner through his admin. person in order to get a statement, but he's out of the country through March. I'll let you know what I find out about another location. Our dinner group can't wait to locate the new digs. We've made that our spot at least twice a week. We'll update asap.

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Teresa Gubbins, says:

mitch_pyles, you sure do seem to be a Big Fan of cosmo rouge!

i've been trying to contact the owner for four months, ever since i spotted the building for sale online. i first interviewed him <a href="http://tgubbins.blogspot.com/2005/08/cosmo-rouge.html">in 2005</a> before cosmo rouge opened. my recollection is that he wasn't supposed to change the structure or turn it over. i wondered if that situation changed? but you say he is out of town until march.

as for the place, my experience was not the "incredible find" you <a href="http://www.pegasusnews.com/places/cosmo-rouge/#c21209">describe</a>; i got weird food and poor service. and even though i keep up with "foodie" sites, i haven't spotted any of the "web chatter among foodies" you <a href="http://www.pegasusnews.com/places/cosmo-rouge/#c21209">refer to</a> regarding the relocation of cosmo rouge -- other than the comments you've posted here on Pegasus News, that is. they're lucky to have a fan as enthusiastic as you!

meanwhile you mention that "The concept is being solicited by private groups as I write. The official word is closed to 1.5m." can you be more specific? you seem to have the kind of knowledge available only to someone with a personal relationship or first-hand knowledge. would love to hear the inside story

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DC, says:

Jingle Balls and something something something - whatever. I'll tell you what the problem with CR was: expensive ass food that wasn't that great. I'll bet their margin was stupendous.

The drinks were pretty damn good, though. I mean, the lemon drops tasted like lemon drops. Awesome.

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mitch_pyles, says:

Teresa: Fan, yes. Critic most of the time. I belong to an organization of food professionals who have concurred with my statements. It's a chat line dealing with topics of similar industry interest i.e. restuarants, what's new, industry buzz, investments, etc. I'm not referencing general web buzz. My apologies for the misinterpretation. I can, along with others appreciate your opinion. I'm not the one to carry on debate polls. However, in case you were unaware, many people were fans. Again, you're opinion is what it is - fair. Nonetheless, I don't know the owner personally, but I am aware &amp; know (personally) of two former Brinker Execs who have formed their own company seeking to make that concept part of their portfolio, which is similar to several successful bistros acquired by the group. Your experience, as valid as it might be was what it was...sorry to hear that, okay? CR fits the bill for what "some" of us wanted in the area. I hope I can still make statements like that without stirring emotions. They (investment types), like myself, are longtime O.C. residents. Regarding the "inside story" I only know that it was a great deal for the owner based mainly from some of the financial people involved in the transaction, who shall remain nameless. I'm trying to reach the previous owner because of a few research projects going on within the O.C. area, and because I understand he owns other property my colleagues would be interested in...that's the extent of my knowledge. However, as the information becomes more public, and I am given the o.k. to unfold the few details I'm aware of I will let you know. Just know that whatever the operating numbers were regarding CR they were obviously working for what their immediate goals were...perception is one thing, facts are what they are...And believe me these investors I make mention of not only crunch numbers, but evaluated, week after week, the place. They (my acquaintances) formed this group a few years ago, and haven't stumbled yet. But again, I'm sure your personal assessment is quite valid. Let's see..I think I responded to most of your questions. Oh yes, he (previous owner) has a production company of sorts. I reached a personal assistant who told me he was out of town. Regarding not changing the structure or turning it over...I'm not aware of, but either money or some type of interest has a way of changing one's mindset. Again, not sure if that's the case. Also, independent of my professional linkages, other local sites have similar views, but it is what it is.....

DC: I agree with the drinks, but I enjoyed the food there as well. Based on the numbers, Tillman's Roadhouse, believe it or not, is the most expensive "now," in the area, beating out Hatties (in terms of costs). They are very much appreciating thier new clientele. I never have an opinion about food cost from a restaurant. Most will charge whatever the market will bare. We basically, patronize entities we can afford. Those we can't afford, we pace our visits, but the Bishop Arts area is more affordable than the average meals across the Trinity and then some.

All in all, what I'm saying is simple. The reason why the Knox-Henderson corridor works (Hector's, Cretias, Javier's, Abacus, Toulouse, Cuba Libre, Fireside, Hibiscus, etc.)is because the locals appreciate the fact that each one place is different, and there is a market base for each one (in and outside the district). And believe me, it not "just" the local support keeping those puppies thriving. Similar to the B.A. District, that area depends on traffic some 30+ miles outside of their zone as well. The moment we, as a local, starts out with "the fit isn't there," is when we totally miss the boat. My wife and I are supporting the success of every business in our neighborhood. See you guys around.

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Spearsie, says:

I emailed the owner (from an old reservation confirmation I had in my inbox from months ago) and his assistant responded within one day. She basically said what Mitch said, that CR didn't "bite the dust" as this thread alludes to, but that it was an offer the owner just couldn't refuse. She mentioned that he has partnerships in ther concepts in North Dallas, does anyone know if these are restaurants and what the names are?

As I mentioned in an earlier post, Cosmo Rouge was our favorite restaurant. Stephen, the owner, greeted guests enthusiastically and remembered us when we returned. It was our special event place - we were last there on NYE and had an incredible experience. The food and service were, by far, the best I have ever had - this was mostly because of Matthew, our server. He seriously made our time there memorable. It was such a special place, and I will miss it desperately.

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Rob Shearer, says:

Just wanted to let folks know that the new restaurant operator who is in the old Cosmo space has reopened the bar while they work on remodeling the dining room and kitchen.

The bartender from Cosmo has stayed on and the drinks are still excellent.

As for the earlier posts regarding the old Cosmo having been a financial supporter of the Bishop Arts District, it's simply not true. As a property owner in the District and a board member of the merchant association, I can tell you that Stephen didn't do much to foster good relationships with his neighbors.

Either way - we're excited for Matt Spillers and crew to get their new restaurant open and are happy to enjoy the cool vibe of the Cosmo bar in the meantime.

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Teresa Gubbins, says:

thanks for the heads-up, rob

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blackpride40, says:

What a bummer. I was just telling someone how nice that place was. I love the Bishop Art District.

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