Duncanville doesn’t want Swingtown image

Sym, says:

Brian, I completely agree with your assessment of an establishment like the one indicated in the affidavit. It too makes me ill just trying to wrap my head around why anyone would ever go into a place like that. The proclamation made by the city in this document sure does paint a vivid picture of a destructive, unsanitary, and a raving group of lowly perverts wishing to spread various forms of pestilence within the community. The document makes me ill just to imagine such a place existing.

But I must say your statement have been made with ignorance. Sadly the truth is not completely obvious in this document nor is it a good representation of what happens inside the Cherry Pit. Obviously those who wrote it wanted you to see a slime infested representation of what a ‘seedy sex club’ would be and help motivate you to get behind them without fully knowing the both sides. But the truth is that there is nothing really substantially true with in its pages, all our exaggerations and misrepresentations.

I guess the best way to truly understand what it is we are reading is to get into the mindset of the city itself which is attempting to attack and destroy a citizen’s constitutional rights. They are trying to say their version of morality is better then someone else’s. Basically that the things our forefathers fought and died for meant nothing and that the public is generally too stupid to be able to believe anything other then what they are told. There are always two sides to any story.

The Declaration of Independence states “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness” By Duncanville’s actions it seems that they do not believe in these certain unalienable Rights. We have the right to pursue happiness in our own way just as they have those same rights as long as we are doing nothing that society deems illegal. So now you say “But they are doing something illegal”! Actually, we can not say they are doing anything illegal. At this point they are innocent till proven guilty. So therefore it is quite possible that what we are reading are in fact charges aimed to harass and humiliate with the intent to drive the ‘problem’ out of the area.

From what everything says this place has been around a long time, but I have heard of no major outbreak of sexually based diseases related to this persons home. They say they took tons of alcohol from the home, but if you look at the report many of them are partially empty and in one place they were told it was ‘bring your own alcohol’. If you were going to sale alcohol why would you open so many ‘half bottles’? Plus have large amounts of the same types of spirits, again opened and half drained. What about cleanliness? If the place was as nasty as its being described, don’t you think people would stop going? I mean I enjoy being intimate just like the next guy but I do not like the idea of doing it surrounded by filth. I fully believe that 95% of the people in the world would agree with me on that. So chances are the descriptions listed may not be completely true. The owner skimming something from the pool could have just as easily been body lotion or some other substance from a person’s body floating to the top or even hair from an individual’s head that came loose. So reading between the lines shows that has a possibility of being false or exaggerated to enhance the sensationalism of the case. Obviously we do not have all the facts on both sides here in writing. I feel confidant that the we are just looking at a city who’s soul intent is to run one of its citizens out of town because they don’t like the idea of a man throwing a sex party in their city limits.

I for one will always believe, innocent till proven guilty in a court of law.

DC, says:

I like that they're refusing to acknowledge that these people are doing it Duncanville, while likely living in Duncanville, and are probably their Duncanville teachers, pharmacists and local pub owners.

Maybe the citizens of Duncanville, much like Dallasites, just need to have the big MDMA fueled orgy and get it over with.

Sym, says:

Parking issues and a business are both huge concerns! Of course again it is not entirely accurate. The picture being painted by the city is pretty specific, the Cherry Pit is a public nuisance and clearly a business. But realistically these are purely trumped up growing off a perception.

Let’s start with traffic concerns. This is a very real issue for the local neighborhood. I for one HATE it when I run into a congested area where driving is impeded by disrespectfully parked motorist. In the past, it is possible this was an issue at the Cherry Pit. I am sure their neighbors have run into a few times when it was a real problem. But the city has posted ‘no parking’ signs in front of their house. This prevents anyone from parking on the side of the road. Based on the affidavit they ‘shuttle’ people from about a mile away (if memory serves me right). So if that is the truth then there is little to no traffic congestion nor are there real issues with that road becoming an obstacle course. Well if that is the case, then at this point the issue is largely resolved.

Now onto the business part, I have been to their house several times over the last year and a half. I for one can attest that I have not donated anything and have never been turned away. Thinking fully I believe I may have only donated once and it was less then their suggested donation amount since it was all I could afford to help with. So that gives me personally the evidence needed to stand up and say that if they would have turned someone away for non-donations it would have happened to me long ago. I have also heard of others donating less then the suggested donation if anything at all. So realistically if they were a business and they really didn’t ‘invite you back’ for not donating, I think I would of seen it personally or heard of it by now. But I really haven’t heard of such a thing. Of course as I state that I realize that I am a bit ashamed that I didn’t donate more when I could. The truth is that they paid for food, drinks, electricity, water, the house, and everything else in between to put on a fun gathering that was a lot more then the seedy dark sex parties that I read about. They were actually really good parties, if they didn’t ask people to donate and help them with the expenses I truly don’t think anyone could of hosted these types of parties for long. So to hang on the donation aspect you kind of forget that it costs a lot of money to throw any type of party let alone throw one every weekend! So if they made 10K a month I would be amazed, that would assume that everyone that came donated and that they had little expenses.

The other point I keep reading is the prostitution aspect of the case. I can not stress how absurd it is to read about this and to try and connect the proverbial dots in the cities case. They are indicating, based on the affidavit, that the ‘fun money’ is used to purchase sex. From what I was told the fun money, which is only done this month and was not used the rest of the time I was there, is merely an icebreaker, a game to see who can gather the most and help faster communication between people who didn’t know each other. If it was truly money for prostitution then those receiving the money would have to gain something of specific value to warrant it. If in fact the only thing you gained by gathering fun money is a ‘congratulations here is a t-shirt’ I think that is pretty far from prostitution. To add to it the idea that it’s a brothel that you pay $50 is equally absurd. I do not know the going rate for those in the night walking profession but I have a pretty good idea that a suggested donation would not get you anything and them asking for a mere $50 would not completely satisfy your needs. So in truth, fun money is merely an ice breaker and game with no real value.

The end result is this, based on my personal observations, the Cherry Pit is not a business, it is not a brothel, and it doesn’t cause as much traffic concerns as those that have been voiced. It is in fact just a house with a few homeowners willing to facilitate a group of like minded individuals in having a weekly party to do something they enjoy. It is not a cess pool or anything else that it is being painted as. It is in fact just a house were people enjoy the company of others in whatever manner they find most accepting.