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Christians shying away from charitable giving because of bad economy
According to a story in the Dallas Business Journal, in which it cites a survey by Addison-based Dunham+Co., Christians are not being charitable because of the high cost of living. One in three households with incomes more than $100,000 says the economy is affecting their support of charities.
The price of gas is cited as the main reason, with the price of food coming in second.
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Scott Miller, says:
I'm sure Jesus would be proud.
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dadavark, says:
did anyone poll aetheists? Mormons? Muslims? Cocker spaniels? What's the point of the poll if there is no comparison? So the bottom line is a sampling of Christians surveyed said they were cutting back on charitable giving? Members of my church recently took on support of more than 500 Ugandan children. They didn't shy away or worry about the cost of petrol. Maybe the pollsters asked the wrong people?
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Clay213, says:
This article is a horrible paraphrasing of the original.
'Christians are not being charitable because of the high cost of living.'
I'm sorry-- but the original article nor the study does not say that.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
"Nearly half of Christian adults in the United States have reduced their charitable giving because of the economic downturn, according to a recent survey commissioned by Dunham+Co.
A sharp rise in fuel and food costs are to blame."
How does that not say that? Unless you don't need energy or food to live.
For the record, I've given more to charity this year than any year previously, combined, but mostly because of guilt. Which probably puts me right on par with Catholics.
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jtmbls, says:
I believe it's the sardonic overtone to the paraphrasing Clay213 is objecting to, which is nothing new or surprising here.
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jtmbls, says:
the overtones - not the objection - just to clarify.
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littlekinder, says:
Well, I'm with dadavark - is there a control group here? And what is meant by less... less overall or a lesser percentage? That's significant.
However, having said that, giving is personal and of the heart, and it's sad to me that someone's watchdogging it.
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jtmbls, says:
Very significant. But it just wouldn't be PC to single out any other religion for such purposes.
See Clay - We get to be jerky right back!!
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littlekinder, says:
No,don't be jerky... even if Christians don't have as much disposable income as they have previously, we are blessed in many ways that can't be measured, and that's worth sharing with everyone.
It doesn't matter what people say. To remark "wouldn't Jesus be proud" shows how little we understand - Jesus is in the business of loving, not pride. People are all about pride - comparing, competing. Just give what you can from the heart and that will be enough. Jesus could feed 5000 with five loaves and two fishes. God can take what is given and accomplish the unimaginable.
Oh, I know that sounded really sappy, sorry. I just don't know a better way to express it.
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momzilla, says:
In at least some of these cases, the "charity" that they are no longer giving to is church programs such as the building fund.
My family has a couple of charities for chronic disease that we not only support, but fundraise for. We've found that churchgoers typically give a smaller donation to secular groups because they are usually already donating at church, but are more likely to donate something when approached. My youngest daughter collected over $400 all by herself for the MS society, all in $5 - $10 donations from schoolmates and teachers at her Christian school.
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Scott Doyle, says:
I must not be very proud then...don't trust most charities, tbh. Would sooner give monies to peeps who I see for myself as being in need. Also, I'm very much against offering a lifeline to people who choose not to apply themselves - I don't feel many charities distinguish between those truly in need.
Regardless, pretty shifty to point fingers simply b/c Jesus lovers aren't giving up as much.
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Jason Rice, says:
Hmm.. Pretty snarky opener.
So the fact that this referred group gives less after
Makes the the more socially conscious now less more socially conscious than the less socially conscious that are now more less socially conscious. Right? More or less.
Can I bring up my love of selective statistics again or should I wait till we're sleepy after lunch and needing naps?
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Pavel Lishin, says:
"if Christians don't have as much disposable income as they have previously, we are blessed in many ways that can't be measured."
That's great for you guys; what about the less fortunate who depend on charity? :P
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momzilla, says:
It didn't say that they weren't giving as much as non Christians, only that they were giving less than they did formerly. It also didn't differentiate between community and church charities as recipients of their giving.
Quoting the article, "The study found that those who attend church frequently are less likely to have the economy affect their giving, while those who rarely attend church are more likely to decrease their giving."
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Clay213, says:
'Christians are not being charitable because of the high cost of living.'
Less charitable(which is what the study found) does not equal not charitable(which is what this article says).
Unless Minnie knows of some part of the study that found christians were not giving anything at all.
For the record I'm not christian.
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jtmbls, says:
I'm thinking Jesus might actually appreciate my jerky-ness. In fact (or lore), sometimes Jesus got a little jerky himself.
I have to agree with Doyle when it comes to charity…Even if he does drink wine out of a box.
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jtmbls, says:
"Satire (n.) - An obsolete kind of literary composition in which the vices and follies of the author's enemies were expounded with imperfect tenderness. In this country satire never had more than a sickly and uncertain existence, for the soul of it is wit, wherein we are dolefully deficient, the humor that we mistake for it, like all humor, being tolerant and sympathetic. Moreover, although Americans are 'endowed by their Creator' with abundant vice and folly, it is not generally known that these are reprehensible qualities, wherefore the satirist is popularly regarded as a sour-spirited knave, and his every victim's outcry for codefendants evokes a national assent." [Ambrose Bierce]
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Pavel Lishin, says:
jtmbls, I think you're getting Doyle and myself confused again.
Unless that was some weird sort of satire I'm not getting.
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littlekinder, says:
Re: Pavel's question-
I only meant to point out that even if our incomes have dropped, we still have many ways to be charitable and kind. Bringing meals, donating clothing, babysitting children. Showing love, giving back what we have been given. It's the love that cannot be measured.
I in no way meant to imply that you can just "wish them well" and go on your merry way. I clearly said you should give from the heart, maybe I was unclear, I definitely meant give MONEY. My giving has not changed, but I can understand circumstances where it would become harder for some people and they should not be made to feel guilty about it, in my opinion.
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Scott Doyle, says:
Uhh, she thought it was me b/c I said feel free to post embarrassing pics.
That's Pavel chugging his box o' wine, jtmbls. When I get home, I'll post a pic of what I was referencing.
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Rick Yost, says:
I'm sure most charities across the board will be less effective than before because of the economy.
Which will directly effect the ill, the less fortunate and homeless. The panhandler on the street is probably going to be getting less and less.
Combine this with the influx of immigrants, those displaced by the mortgage situation, and the percentage of soldiers returning from war who will go to the street, and you've got a mess.
This could get strange.
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Minnie Payne, says:
Dear Clay,
You're absolutely right. I made a mistake in my paraphrasing. I left out the word "as" - I should have said "Christians are not being as charitable ..."
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jtmbls, says:
Oh darn! I really thought you were just being cheeky like so many of your lovely peg contemporaries.
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