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Texas Supreme Court says exorcisms are Constitutional

Case involving an injurious ceremony in Colleyville sets First Amendment precedent.

— The state Supreme Court upheld a church's Constitutional right to perform exorcisms. Pleasant Glade Assembly of God, which merged with another congregation in 2002, was sued by Laura Schubert over injuries resulting from the church's attempts to cast demons out of her.


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Rick Yost, says:

What I've discerned from this story is that Ms. Schubert was a seventeen year old impressionable idiot following a herd of mindless baffoons.
Who knows what sexual fun these lunatics had play-acting like they were pulling demons out of this young girl's body.

However, I don't think putting restrictions on what fanatics do behind their own tax-free doors is a good thing.
I say bring on the fire, the brimstone, and the snakes.

As long as they only abuse their own, I say don't let the courts 'craft' religion.

If you start dictating what believers can or cannot do, the next step might be to limit what non-believers can or cannot do. Then this whole circus would effect me.

Amen.

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Scott Miller, says:

As someone who was brought up in an Assembly of God church I agree for the most part.

I draw the line at snakes, though.

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Kay, says:

Tho likely true, I probably wouldn't have gone so far as to say the things Rick did in the beginning of his post, I certainly agree that he has the bottom-line perfectly covered...snakes and all.

So, Amen to Rick's Amen.

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Rick Yost, says:

The devil made me say those things...I swear!

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Kay, says:

:::snicker:::

Rick, I'm remembering that was also Geraldine's best excuse. (ala Flip Wilson)

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rhia, says:

Concerning personal freedom, I'm pretty much in agreement as well, but my line gets drawn at consent. If adults agree to an act or behavior between themselves that only effects themselves, that's their choice. Children and animals can't legally give consent.

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Lisa Lawrence Merritt, says:

Oh Dear Gawd! What a relief to know that I can now cast out Beelzebub after alllll these years of living with him and know that I'll be protected under law.

Wow.

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Kay, says:

Children have legal (adult) guardians....that apparently in this case gave parental concent, tho for some reasons they seem to be only mentioned as missionaries abroad and her choice of 'following in her father's footsteps'. Perhaps there are details we aren't provided, but all in all folks, Separation of Church and State is a key issue.

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AnnMarie Wilson, says:

Unfortunately, this country seems to have forgotten the Separation of Church and state; along with the fact it was NOT created as a 'christian' country.

That aside - this happened to a minor and she should have been protected. If an adult wished to indulge in this insanity, so be it. This was a person under 18.

Personally, the whole concept makes me physically ill; intellectually it has me screaming for long term mental treatment for people that believe in these fantasies of demon possession and the casting out of evil.

Fear rules - those stronger prey on those weaker using fear.

Our government uses the same 'fear' tactic to control the masses to a disgustingly effective end result.

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Kay, says:

Ann-Marie,

Many good points. I've just read some of the case and (perhaps I missed it in the legalese?) could find no place where Laura being a minor was an issue. There seemed to be no indication of parental consent nor it's role in this case on either side.

Apparently the teenagers were left alone while the parents went out of town for several days. Confusion in that the parents seemingly are not actual members of this church nor allowed to "interfere because they are missionaries". Did the parents know of the practices of this church or not?

Still things we don't know I'm sure...but I agree, whatever are the standard actions they should be praticed only on adults unless the parents are present and consent...in which case the parents IMO would be held responsible for the child's welfare and not the church. But IANAL and couldn't begin to understand all the complications in this case.

I think the parents are somehow negligent...before the fact. Once again, parental responsibility involves knowing more than just where they are, but granted some parents these days don't even know that much.

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Kay, says:

Not to take this thread in a different direction...I just wanted to comment. Much misinformation echoing hither and thither regarding our country being founded as a Christian nation. Before this starts a controversy, AnnMarie's post is correct. It was not.

Back to this particular case....

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