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Wednesday, March 19, 2008

Photo Gallery: Iraq Invasion 5th Anniversary Peace Rally

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— The "Five Years TOO Long" Peace Rally took place on Wednesday afternoon at Dealey Plaza, with participation by civil rights leaders, musicians, and activists. Hosted by the Dallas Peace Center, the rally was part of a series of events throughout the week to mark the fifth anniversary of the Iraq War.


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John McClelland Verified

From the looks of the pictures, it seems we had as many if not more people in Lewisville. We were in front of Congressman Burgess's office on I-35. The police's only request-- stay off the lawn! Such are the days when you can't stand on grass. But there was a sidewalk.

Our group had members of Peace Action Denton, Veterans for Peace, UNT students, and button downed working folks who just left the office.

I have to mention that it seemed we had slightly less people showing us we were number one, or showing us that they like to masturbate in their cars (hand motions in response to us, not actual masturbation, I hope). More people honked in support than a year ago. We even drew counter protestors, who at 1st were intelligent, but then allowed 2 idiots to drop by who threw together a sign that said "hippies suck". I am not sure how that supports the troops, but alas.

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NateDawgUNT Anonymous

While I think Austin probably had a much larger showing yesterday, it's nice to see some front-and-center attention to those protestring the war locally.

I know PegNews is geared towards the local, but Dallas being such a historically "conspiracy" town, I wonder what some of the editors here think about the whole 9/11-Truth culture.

Clearly this is a bigger topic than, say, a local election, but I think a lot of those that support this type of thinking don't feel major media has taken a close enough look into the facts (whether those are on the record, or theories).

I think it's undeniable that 9/11 was a terrible tragedy, and one that changed us all forever. What I find interesting are the 2 vocal perspectives about that day. Many feel it's terrible, it happened, and now let's never talk about it again. The facts are what the media told us they were, who are we to question whether politicians or CNN anchors didn't do the best job possible?

The other side says that there are some interesting facts out there that don't all add-up. Maybe 9/11 on the surface is straight-froward, but after some digging has several inconsistencies that no one cares to explain. Does that make either group less-patriotic?

It seems no one is happy with the war today. Freedom-loving Americans and people the world over should never "want" to go to war, but at what point do we have to stop? At what cost to America do we as a country have to walk away?

The USA has a history of helping other countries in times of need, but at what point do we have to say "this is ruining us, and at this rate, we won't be capable of continuing in this tradition"?

PegNews has a lot of vocal readers and editors, and I think just because a story is bigger than an individual doesn't mean we shouldn't stop and look around every once in a while.

We are a society that loves sound bytes. A picture is literally worth more than a thousand words, because most of us won't read beyond the first paragraph these days.

This post isn't a challenge for an argument with others, but a question posed: did what happen on 9/11 go exactly as the official story reads, or do you have things you wonder about? Should we still be in Iraq, and do we feel we have leadership that listens to the majority of us anymore?

Again, staffers and readers, I'd be interested in your thoughts at the local level, and the 5 year anniversary seems a good time to reflect.

Thanks

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Blue Shoe Mike Verified

Fantastic

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jtmbls Anonymous

Are we seriously known as a "conspiracy town”??? The JFK assassination notwithstanding, it did take place here after all. But outside of that, is Dallas really viewed as a hub of far reaching theorist and complete disregard for fact based reason and logic??? That’s it…I’m moving to Hollywood and becoming a Scientologist.

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jtmbls Anonymous

NateDawgUNT

To answer your question, when presented with a choice between believing the conspiracy theorists or the scientists at Popular Mechanics, who went to some lengths to debunk the most pervasive theories, I’m definitely going with the guys who have the degrees in Engineering and Physics.

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NateDawgUNT Anonymous

jtmbls

I think most people probably believe the basics, but in terms of ancillary portions of that day, such as WTC 7's collapse, numerous false training scenarios over North America confusing our military forces as to what was a real threat, and even the really sparse video clip from a Pentagon parking security camera...what about those items?

I'm not pushing for or against, because I think what both sides want is A: the other side to finally be quiet, and B: be satisfied with info surrounding each instance of an incongruity.

To me, I have to admit that the Pentagon did not have more than 1 webcam in a parking lot to capture a catastrophic crash into one of if not "the" most-secure buildings in the country seems...underwhelming?

Again, not to defend all crazy conspiracies here, but I do not see what many who have bought-in to, or claim to have evidence to the contrary are former airline officials, pilots, engineers, teachers, etc. I guess I wonder why all of those people would place their credibility in such shaky hands as a conspiracy-baked idea.

On the other hand, let's think about those that think it is what it is, and it's been investigated, to your point. What is it, from that perspective, that makes those that call for further detail about the day's events so passionately opposed?

To me, expressing another view and interpretation is healthy, and there are still WW2 historians that claim all sorts of things now decades following those events.

Let's clearly look at not talking about those that have a stake monetarily in this sort of view (documentary filmakers, radio hosts, etc.), and what you have left is a lot of people concerned about a lot of things going on in the USA.

Does it all stem from bored, single, acne-covered chat room visitors and their zany ideas, or is it something else?

Thanks for the reply

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Kay Anonymous

While your comment, I'm sure, is sincere ~ ( "To me, expressing another view and interpretation is healthy, and there are still WW2 historians that claim all sorts of things now decades following those events." ) it is not necessarily healthy to oppose the current administration's views.

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jtmbls Anonymous

I believe each of the secondary issues you referred to were addressed and dismissed, at least to my satisfaction, in the documentary put forth by Popular Mechanics.

As far as the lack of state of the art camera equipment at the Pentagon, I am never surprised by the ineptitude or inefficiency of the Federal Government. (Have you lost a Social Security card lately?)

What I do believe in is mental illness in varying degrees. I believe the woman who showed up uninvited at David Letterman’s home because she believed he was sending her coded messages through the television really and truly believed he was sending her messages and nothing anyone could say could dissuade her. Not that I am saying that anyone who asks questions is mentally ill. We should question everything but at some point, if there is no factual evidence to support your theory, maybe it’s time to move on.

As to the motivations of your fellow humans, you are only scraping the surface assuming that money could be the only or primary motivation for most. I encourage you to dig deeper in that respect.

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