Monday, October 13, 2008
TABC to hold hearing on Six Flags’ request for alcohol permit
According to Flickr user chewieez, they sell beer at the Six Flags in New Jersey, so why not here?
Almost 10 months after Six Flags started exploring the idea of selling alcohol at their Arlington theme parks, the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission (TABC) will hold a hearing to hear arguments for and against such an idea. Apparently, hundreds of protest letters convinced the TABC to hold a hearing where hundreds of calls did not. The hearing will be held at the Hotel Trinity in Fort Worth on Tuesday and Wednesday at 10 a.m., perfect for all you working folks.
Fun quote for alcohol: "If Six Flags was switching from Coke to Pepsi, that’s when you have a public outcry, but beer, pshaw!"
Fun quote against: "I don’t want to walk into a park full of drunk idiots who puked everywhere!"
Posted by Alex B.
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Chris Kidd says:
Its due to the fact we have an backward system of approval here, where a bunch of whiners cry and complain that they wont take their church groups to six flags if they serve beer. Heaven forbid those kids see someone drinking...
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Jason Rice says:
Ya know - these debates always remind me of the brief time I lived in Salt Lake City - Mecca of the post-prohibition hold outs.
That same year, the Californians arrived en masse, yearning for the clean air and low property crime rates. Each one took their turn whining at me about the liquor laws - you have to specifically SAY you want alcohol in a margarita or they must by law bring a virgin drink to your table. Also all beer and liquor are sold in state run stores.
"Man, I used to just step outside my door and walk down the street to get a beer, not have to drive across town to some fascist state liquor store!"
So I'd ask why they moved to Utah then if it was so much better.
"Dude! 'Cause of all the crack whores on the way to the beer store!"
The joy of cognitive disconnection.
I can't say I support beer sales in a place that pays such a premium licensing for Warner Brothers/Disney/Marvel IP to make the kids buy junk. Grownups out partying don't mix with kids' safety.
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Pavel Lishin says:
Hey, if kids are going to be seeing drinking for the first time, it should be with the family, in the privacy of the home, when daddy comes home from a bad day at work has a few drinks and then gets mad at mommy.
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Jason Rice says:
Pavel, tsk tsk, you and your obsession with traditional family roles.
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Chris Kidd says:
Most of the folks who live in SLC also go to a church that looks like the Jedi Temple as well, which should account for something being wrong.
That being said, the southern baptist dummy contingent, like the mormons in SLC, like to have control over anything remotly entertaining. I do work for one of the park chains mentioned and I dont see major issues with beer/wine sales at a theme park.
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Jason Rice says:
Chris - then you won't have any problem refunding my HUGE admission fees the first time I'm confronted by an abusive drunkard.
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Scott Doyle says:
No worries, Jason. I'm sure it'll be at or worse than ballpark prices...meaning if they're drunk, they likely have plenty of money to cough up in a lawsuit should said drunkard cause any real harm.
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Jason Rice says:
Good point. Might be good date fodder for (j)Tumbles too. Ok, I'll change my vote.
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Pavel Lishin says:
I wonder how many people bring a flask, anyway. The whole "THEY'LL GET DRUNK IN PUBLIC!" point might be moot.
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Scott Doyle says:
Pavel, it's not exactly moot - big difference between someone breaking park rules while bringing in a flask versus Six Flags providing the alcy-hol.
Granted, that's simply from a liability standpoint, but this is the bible belt...if there's an item of sin such as alcohol involved, there will be a lawsuit simply for the sake of defending the good lord's honor. I sincerely hope the defense is along the lines of "maybe he shouldn't have intelligently designed the process of fermentation".
Can't wait for zealots to come out of the woodwork on this. You're welcome, Miko.
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Travis Bush says:
I'm not sure why anyone would object. They sell beer at the Ball Park , which is supposed to be family friendly. Regardless, the smart ones will always just head back to the car for a frosty one..cheaper too.
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alexander troup says:
If you take kids to the rehab maybe they can watch how adult Should act....while ole 6 Flags....Home of the cold Bottle Texas Ranger.... AND WYNNS......ale.Troup/
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Chris Kidd says:
Disney, Busch, Sea World: They all sell beer/wine by the glass and without any real issues. SF parks elsewhere do this as well, and you dont see alot of issue with public drunkeness. I think the big issue is the Souther Baptist Dummies want to run the agenda for people who want to go out and have a drink at said theme park.
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Travis Bush says:
"I think the big issue is the Souther Baptist Dummies want to run the agenda for people who want to go out and have a drink at said theme park. "
Want to? Why do you think we still can't buy liquor on Sundays?
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Chris Kidd says:
Hence why people got have got to stand up....
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alexander troup says:
Call it..... FRANK J NORRIS.. LAND, or J. Frank Norris.. Since the 1900s, SOUTHERN BAPTIST ALL THE WAY.....a cousin to the late Elmer Gantry...and than again, the top of the Hill Club in Arlington c.1937....Arlington Downs 1939. Alex Troup, Observer.
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Jason Rice says:
So I'm alone in appreciation of the irony that the throng that rushes to tell Yost where he can and cannot smoke are quickest to tell him he can drink anywhere? (Which of course he can... heck! he's Yost)
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alexander troup says:
Dry climate, dry state , soon to be dry econmey, take a drive to .....Arlington Brewery.....establisehd in 2009....A.T.
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Scott Doyle says:
Yost drinking doesn't result in me smelling like an ashtray...
Unless he vomits on me. Not ruling that one out, btw.
And presuming he drinks responsibly, my health isn't in question either. Not sure where you're going with this, J-Rice.
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alexander troup says:
Dry state, dry buildings, dry wallets, Arlington Steak and Beer joint.. a.t.
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Pavel Lishin says:
There's nothing ironic about my alcoholism!
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Jason Rice says:
Pavel, darling, there's d*mned little NOT ironic about you.
Scott, "responsible smoking" were it ever defined, might leave you fresh as a daisy. To reign in one vice and not another just because "we all understand what responsible means ::wink, wink::" is a tad lame.
I don't drink (not because of Jedi training, but I don't like flammable things near my face) so drunks stumbling in front of me having absolved themselves of responsible self control are as inconvenincing as second hand smoke... and as endangering.
I'm am an extremist though and oft laughably so.
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ch0 says:
Drinking and smoking make you cool and handsome.
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Jason Rice says:
Touché - Pretty squarely rules me out. Point goes to cho
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Travis Bush says:
"Touché - Pretty squarely rules me out."
Yeah..AA owes its existence to faces like that..
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Scott Doyle says:
J-Rice, I'm not preaching that smoking is for heathens and alcohol is drank by saints (although, if I were to support one or the other I'd definitely tilt the scales in this direction).
The act of drinking only affects the consumer until that party makes poor decisions because of it. Smoking directly affects the hygiene and health of those around you from the moment you light up. I'm of the mind a responsible drinker is less taxing on peeps than an indoors smoker.
Those who defy me have no soul. At least, they're unattractive to the opposite sex. Obey me or die alone.
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Travis Bush says:
"Obey me or die alone."
Best pick up line EVAR!
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James Scott says:
I think people are making way too big a deal about this...it's not like there's this mass contingent of alcoholics waiting in the parking lot of 6 Flags just biding their time to get in and go Animal House on the entire establishment with keg stands and body-shots in Loony Toons land. I've been to Universal Studios where they sold alcohol and we didn't even realize they sold it until our visit was almost over.
It seems 6 Flags just wants a bit of extra income - as a result - it might even help them to keep from raising ticket prices in the future. Wouldn't Mr. & Mrs. Jo-Bob family appreciate a few people having a couple of (I'm sure highly-priced) drinks if it meant they paid less to get in to the park?
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Scott Doyle says:
T-Rex, it's worked for various religions over centuries. Why can't I get in on that action?
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Jason Rice says:
I probably shouldn't have really weighed in at all. I work two blocks from the place and it takes a serious hour of consternation to walk in there "to show the kids some fun." Heat reflecting asphalt, that constant stench of oil tar, rotting sugar and stale chlorine, teeming shrieking tweens and now drunk college barfs. It just redoubles the motivation to talk them into the zoo instead of the mandatory once a year pilgrimage.
Yes Scott, a stiff drink once inside the park might allay that, but the above ambiance coupled with my flammable liquid phobia means I'll purge before Skip and Biff do and waste a good eight bucks.
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Chris Kidd says:
James, im in agreement, this is a whole bunch of nothing being raised by the southern baptist dummies all in the name of "Protecting the children". Hell, allowing beer/wine at the park will hopefully bring in more mature business..
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Jason Rice says:
I can see it, Scott.
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alexander troup says:
Six Flags, is loacted in the old Pablo Monsolo patent, from the 1830s Republic of Texas take over after the Alamo, many a man and women drank wine and german made beer in the 19th century to celeberate such an Indepenence, so.....you have drunks or celebrating Tejanos today,While what is the meaning of concession today, my money their fun and restricted confidence......give me a break, this is never going to be Europe in a 1000 years....A. TROUP, Almish concession stand owner.
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jtmbls says:
I can certainly see Jason’s point. It’s a scary thing to have some drunken idiot pushing, trampling or otherwise endangering your child’s well being. I had to pull a ninja elbow-to-the-gut move on one at a Justin Timberlake concert once. It could have gotten ugly.
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Alex Bentley says:
Was it Justin Timberlake himself?
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alexander troup says:
Arlington is to young and too old and not even defined here, it is the young Pop culture monkies that cant get it....drinking beer in Arlington is like Mom and Pop stores, your drunk, your dry . A. Troup...Bored Pop culture grandpa.
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jtmbls says:
No, I would have been much nicer to Justin. As long as he didn't step on my daughter.
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alexander troup says:
Mandingo Country and Pop culture, just like Unfair Park, this is going to become bawanna Park... A. Troup.. Pop Culture Grampa., BESIDE JUSTIN IS A WIMP....
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Travis Bush says:
James, im in agreement, this is a whole bunch of nothing being raised by the southern baptist dummies all in the name of "Protecting the children". Hell, allowing beer/wine at the park will hopefully bring in more mature business..
Betcha see plenty at the State Fair throwing back a cold one..and on a Sunday too!
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alexander troup says:
Texas as a State or the fountain of youth for drink has to have a fair place to stand, Arlington is the next Fair Park AND HAS BEEN SINCE THE 1960S..now off to the 21st century, and out with the old rituals of alchol......and smoking and kissing, its kind of boring if you just walk around...and read, that sign......we want you to enjoy your selves, drive safely in the traffic........the Bible Belt, is an important notch to wear, and beside who cares...Alex Troup.stone cold sober..
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