alexander troup Verified

OK, T.B That is a good question, the Barrow family lived and ran a grocery and filling station on what was the old Eagle Ford road, now Singleton, they had been there after the 1920 census from the Okies,the old West Dallas cemetery as it is or was called, dates back to the 1850s late, while in the 1920, several families were being buried there From West Dallas not at fish trap,by the way they called this area off the turnpike road ..Flanders Height and later on Western Heights and so, Fishtrap cemetery is where Bonnie Parker was buried and dug up and buried and dug up, Bonnie,s mother never wanted the two to be buried togther..and Buck Barrow died first out of state in a shot out, had his brains shot up and so he was buried there first, after B and C were shot up by good old lawmen from Dallas, at Gibsland la., Clyde ended up at the Belo Mansion when that was a funeral home on Ross ave, not Bonnie.. while Clydes grave is under a ton of cement having been dug up 3 times and left in a shopping center up the road for Holloween one year,by the way a Love Feild flyer who fell out of his plane flying upside down in 1916 is buried there and so is a dead jockey from the Arlington Downs..I will add more later if you need more done, until then, your local..time clock. Alexander.Troup, Historian.

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Travis Bush Verified

Thank AT...I didn't know that about the Barrows. I also was not aware that the Belo Mansion was a funeral home. I remember my grandparents would always have a chuckle about Bonnie and Clyde. I suppose this comes from attitudes during the depression, when outlaws were just about the only heroes around.

Anything else about that are you have for us?

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alexander troup Verified

YES, you have a good story for a historical mission, because,they need to have the gate of the cemetery opened up, and let people come on in and respect that part of the cemetery, besides West Dallas was and still is the most misunderstood human story on Dallas and remains such, because that is where the freaks had to live in the 1930s...in the 50s it was Modern Criminals that made Oak Cliff and West Dallas, two kinds of gravy,one oil and the other water...until then and more later on, I have to go rest from a long drive, Alex Troup. H.2/O

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Travis Bush Verified

I dunno about glorifying them, but they are a part of Dallas history and folklore.

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Rawlins Gilliland Verified

My God, I want to read more...even meet Mr. Troup. Not only was he right about what I knew...he knew things I have never heard. (Crowd chanting) "More. More!"

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alexander troup Verified

I want to thank Travis for opening up a very sensitive matter concerning modern outlaws, 19 men who were married had families were in cold blood murdered by the famed, notorious, West Dallas Pair, and the legacy of pain that would affect those families lasted into the 1950s, affecting 172 individuals, as the report was done in london England by the BBC for a story on Bonnie and Clyde. Alex Troup, H.2.O. P.S I Am back from a cold coffee.

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alexander troup Verified

THANK YOU, BONNIE AND CLYDE are both, obscure and difficult to understand and realize, kind of like why, and then they became, while Hollywood made them what they are today, and what we dont know makes them what we should of known, until then...good story Travis..A.T

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Travis Bush Verified

Thanks for the history lesson AT! Speaking of dead people..you know anything about Luchea's, which was also on Fort Worth Ave?

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alexander troup Verified

Luchea's was located on the wedge of a street off Ft Worth ave, a fortune teller,had a patch over one eye the last time I saw her 18 years ago, great books and other items, I recall she was a gypsi women, and I could find out more...then again my palm tells me to move towards where the night clubs were and the roaring 1950s, 6 more blocks down let the old gal rest in peace, I really dont want to arouse the evil eye, until then, Alex Troup..H.2.O

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alexander troup Verified

Yes she did, and she used To live in Mesquite, Marie, was her name, I recall, Clyde stole her fisrt bycycle for her,she told me an another historian once in 1997.Neat old gal had a lot of West Dallas in her.....I am going home, will be back next week, take care all of you, the State Fair closed this week, until then...Alex Troup, H.2.O

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Craig McDaniel Verified

Eagle Ford is also known, less so, as one of Dallas' barrios. Hispanics attended the Eagle Ford School, which looks abandoned but actually houses a small high-tech company, adjacent to thriving retail in Pinnacle Park (some of which sits atop forgotten African-American and Anglo graves).

You can see photos and descriptions of this and other barrios in an exhibit volunteers organized that is at the Museum of Nature & Science in Fair Park. It was to have closed with the State Fair, but has been extended through Thanksgiving.

Info about the exhibit is here: http://natureandscience.org/calendar/...

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Travis Bush Verified

Thanks for the heads up Craig. I grew up with migrant families living all around me. They stayed in Dallas for a while and then would head out for the Valley during harvest time. This happened for many years in Oak Cliff communities. Rough living for all of them and rough characters some of them, it makes for interesting history.

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alexander troup Verified

Creig has that right, I had to work on this area for over 20 years... off and on, kind of like Nicholson's China Town, you go to a place that is real dangerous and later it becomes calm, well I had been going to this area since 1965, when the neighbor took us down to West Dallas to collect rent from his rent houses on Thanksgiving day, when everyone was around.... crook,.. I realized 2o years later, and my grandparents were really pissed, but that is the mutlicutural beginings of Dallas, dating back to the 1850s when is was called La Reunion. and so your response is good Creig and Travis your showin some real hide now...lets move on....whos next in the line up of Cash Cow Criminals, caught and buried.... how about Herbert Nobel the Cat, until then. A.T, survivor of West Dallas.

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