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Vast horde of teens apparently loitering around Southlake Town Square

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"Hey, old guy -- wanna hear some more of my loud, blaring music?"

"Hey, old guy -- wanna hear some more of my loud, blaring music?"

Judging from the cited article, loitering teens (aided and abetted by irresponsible parents) are overrunning Southlake Town Square on weekend evenings and need to be ... um ... redirected somehow.

City officials are knocking around the idea of changes to the existing curfew ordinance, and are also talking about increasing the police presence.

One resident thinks a good solution to the problem (which includes kids cruising around in their cars playing loud music) might be for more adults to go out and mingle with them. Which is kind of a charming idea, in a goofy, muddle-headed sort of way.

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Blake Ramick says:

How is a curfew a solution to the problem? All it does is move them to another spot. Seems these days people want to "redirect" problems instead of finding solutions on how to solve them.

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momzilla says:

Actually, the idea of more adults mingling might work. Add some mellow jazz and there you go. What in the world is wrong with parents who drop off twelve year olds for mall security to babysit?

I don't know, though. Even 35 years ago when I was a teen, there had to be a hang out place. Ours was a bowling alley parking lot. I'd imagine our music was loud, but we weren't doing anything bad. No money, nothing to do, and just socializing in a well lit, safe public place. The police would pull up and chit chat with us in a friendly way, learned our names, etc. but didn't hassle us. But this fact, i.e. being known by the police, did tend to make the troublemakers find someplace else to hang out.

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Pavel Lishin says:

What is wrong with letting your kids roam the mall alone? I used to go to school all by my lonesome, taking the bus and the subway, and nothing bad happened to me. Kids are more capable than you think, as long as you don't convince them that they're helpless lower classes of society by treating them so.

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Brandon Konkle says:

I like the idea of increasing the police presence, but in a friendly way like Momzilla remembered. Like Momzilla said, the more attention the police give the less likely troublemakers are to be there.

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Rick Yost says:

It's an adult, guilt-ridden-fear of allowing kids to learn what we did- how we did!
It can be frightening.

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momzilla says:

Well, duh! We remember the kind of stuff we did. And cruising the parking lot was NOT the naughtiest thing by a long shot. Then again, it was harder to get arrested in the 70s than it is now.

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jmingnj says:

Maybe they can build a wall around Southlake to keep out all the undesirable elements that people decide they don't want, after they decided to build facilities designed to attract people. Doesn't seem like the town has a very coherent game plan. I'm just saying.

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3 months, 2 weeks ago
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inarchetype says:

Not sure I understand the problem. Because the town square is supposed to be empty? So put an officer or two down there to keep things from getting dangerously rowdy, and be grateful they're in the town square where there's a limit to the amount of mischief they can be getting up to.

I'd worry more about the those whose recreational whereabouts is less certain, frankly.

Goodness the neurotic suburbanites around here would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Ever grateful I grew up somewhere else!

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rpm4565 says:

Good God, it's frightening to listen to the elitist comments here. What pray tell is so wrong about resident's who are respectful of others and who are polite in a public place being disappointed that disrespectful people (parents, teens, children) can selfishly destroy the enjoyment of a public area for others? If you are enjoying your own front yard on a pleasant summer evening and a car parks on the public street in front of your home and begins blaring music to disturb the surroundings, you are certainly going to take action and it's fair that you can and do. Why should disruptive behavior be any more tolerable when it moves to a place where more people are trying to enjoy otherwise pleasant surroundings? Certainly no legal difference in those cases. If you express disappointment about such selfishly disruptive behavior, you must be a narrow minded elitist, worthy of contempt? Or are you truly the elitist for being so quick to ridicule this simple concern of others about a few who enjoy disrupting life for the many? And for the record, I live in FW and have never been to this square. Just shocked at the arrogance of those who are so quick to elevate themselves to a superior position simply because you don't share the same concern or disappointment. Those are the truly small minds.


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DC says:

I can't tell who is and isn't elitist around here any more.

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Travis Bush says:

Uh..you want the kids where you can see them. You want their money they spend in "town square"? You generally put up with large groups of teens and their obnoxious behavior. Same thing with a mall..you know what to expect and don't get pissy when that is exactly what you find....obnoxious teens. Attack of the teens is a pain, but large cities deal with it every day and in all areas.

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chriss says:

Maybe we could just put everyone between the ages of 13 and 18 into concentration camps and release them when it's time for college/a job/the military.
If that proves successful, we could then move on to employing the same strategy on other inconvenient demographics, like the elderly.

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Drew says:

Immediately jumping on 'neurotic suburbanites' gets irritating. People who live in the city limits think that every last person in a suburb fits this stereotype of uptight people who are afraid of 'real life', and the only true place to live is in a city. I don't read many comments of suburban dwellers making fun of Dallas residents, so ease up. Strange people with strange motives live everywhere.

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rphinc says:

We need MORE safe places for kids to hang out.. Why not convert empty Eckerds stores and grocery stores into Teen Entertainment centers that are WELL managed and supervised. That might divert some of the traffic.. and money.

I agree... why not MINGLE.. These teens are our future leaders. Find out what they are thinking... maybe even influence a few.

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alexander troup says:

Kids have to roam around too but not burn, while the sign of the times and summer is almost over with,... whats a good teen going to do and what is a bad teen going to find out......Hey I am not judgemental, but these kids need something too,besides Mom and Dad are slaves now,so give the teen some room...A/T, How to room and board cool teens..........

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Jason Rice says:

::People who live in the city limits

There are still people living in that gutted out shell of a Neutron Bomb Testing site? Wow, talk about new frontiers. Sure, you can do a Mad Max sequel, but ... raise pets, a family?
You gotta be kidding.

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alexander troup says:

Mad Max is on his way,... while Mel Gibson is in Billion dollar retirement and divorce....A/T, GODAY CHAP....

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Pavel Lishin says:

  1. "Elitist" is last year's buzzword. Please stop peppering your comments with it.

  2. It's not illegal to play your music in a public street, so your point about "legal blah blah" is invalid.

  3. A town square is a public place, to be used by all citizens, no matter what age. When I go out in public and see someone waddling down the street with an ass the size of a trailer, they're destroying the enjoyment of life for me, and yet nobody's suggested banning fat people from public streets.

Where would you have these kids go?

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Jason Rice says:

::Where would you have these kids go?

Well as long as we insist on making "sweatshop" a dirty word...

Meet new people

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Travis Bush says:

"People who live in the city limits think that every last person in a suburb fits this stereotype of uptight people who are afraid of 'real life', and the only true place to live is in a city."

They are and it it is...

Jason..you could also have them cleaning the moat re-tarring the drawbridge..

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chriss says:

Momzilla's onto something when she observes that it was a lot harder to get arrested in the '70s than it is now. What say we do something to reverse that, like stop treating every social issue as if it can be dealt with by having a bunch of criminal penalties piled onto it.

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