Wednesday, June 24, 2009 , Updated
Here we go again: Dallas considering renaming Young Street for Cesar Chavez
Young Street, a road that runs by Dallas City Hall, is the latest attempt to rename a road for Cesar Chavez in Dallas. The renaming process is still in the early stages, however. Young Street also runs by the Dallas Morning News, the Dallas Public Library, and the yet-to-be-built convention center hotel, and is thus considered to be a good location despite its relative shortness (1 mile or so).
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burlyqueen, says:
Is the Cesar Chavez Task Force going to go through as many popular, busy, well established roads and street until they find one that won't have so much controversy?
This is getting really old.
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5 months, 1 week agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
Pavel Lishin, says:
Why not just build a new road?
Verified
5 months, 1 week agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
alexander troup, says:
Well,... they are getting closer to City Hall,but nowhere close to Little Mexico and Cement City, the real place and history for Hispanic Communities......A/T, Take a straw......and draw...
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Peter Stawicki, says:
Ok we will have Cesar Chavez and MLK - Who is going to be the Asian hero named for the Asian population in Dallas? How about the French folks who settled Dallas? The Irish people here? Lets break it down into all the subcatagories of population and give everyone one named street.
Or
How about we stick with naming the streets numbers and letters.
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Alex Bentley, says:
You run out of letters pretty quickly, Peter, and I don't know if I'd want to live on 11493rd Street. :)
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alexander troup, says:
An Asian hero, good point Peter....Joe Wong for Joe's Chinese food...or Mao alley...for french you have Remond drive at Cement City...it is a popular culture we allow those in control by population, and their abiltiy to tell good folklore I gather.....A/T, Name that lane game....
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momzilla, says:
I don't know, Alex. I used to live in Salt Lake City and their numbered grids were really convenient. I could find any address without a map.
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Pavel Lishin, says:
I like the numbers and letters idea.
Let's start with C354R CH4V3Z.
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Jesus Valadez, says:
I've been saying to name it after me.
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5 months, 1 week agoLink to this comment | Suggest removal
Jason Rice, says:
Burly - this is not about Chavez or a street name.
It is about humiliating helpless city leaders in the name of inclusiveness. It's about building a cohesive voting block from a genuinely dispersed demographic for a few people to leverage into longterm careers.
It's about the race card.
And can we PLEASE stop referring to it as the "Task Force" ?
It's LULAC
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burlyqueen, says:
I took the “task force” from the nbcdfw.com article. I didn’t realize there was a “preferred” name. Perhaps you should inform them too.
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Jason Rice, says:
Oh the "preferred name" is Task Force.... bandits never use their real names until they are rich enough that they OWN the town... ya know like Capone.
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Jesus Valadez, says:
Even I don't like LULAC
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ch0, says:
Even Jesus no rike!!
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Bill Betzen, says:
Part of Pearl going through Farmers Market is already named after Cesar Chavez. We just need to finish that process and rename all contiguous parts of Pearl going north, along with the two blocks of Moody. There are no records for the source of either of these street names, either Pearl nor Moody. Thus no pioneers name would be lost or moved such as Young who is well documented in Dallas History.
By renaming most of Pearl the heart of the former Little Mexico would be connected with Farmers Market and pass the Cathedral of Guadalupe in the process. Cesar Chavez had a special devotion to our Lady of Gaudalupe.
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Mike Orren, says:
Is Moody not named for: http://www.tshaonline.org/handbook/on... ?
Bill's site has info from the city archivist on these points: http://www.studentmotivation.org/Cesa...
Hey, the Yosts could rename <a href="http://www.pegasusnews.com/places/pearl/">their bar</a> "Chavez at Commerce."
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Pavel Lishin, says:
"Chavez at Commerce" just doesn't have the same ring to it. I'm gonna go ahead and be a racist bigot and protest against this.
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Peter Stawicki, says:
Mao's on Main has a nice ring though.
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Bill Betzen, says:
Mike, that source for Moody is one the Archivist mentioned but he could find no related documentation. There was also an evangelist during that time in history who was very popular and he thought that was a greater possible source for the name. But again there is no documentation.
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alexander troup, says:
Well,.... we have to name one Hispanic street somewhere, one street for Vietnam Vets and then you have Gays and old Hippie heros and finally....Humans who have contributed to this city in so many events....and still.....they will call it Dallas,over by so and so and such and such....A/T, ..NAME THAT LANE GAME...I will and I dare you....
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ch0, says:
I'm just honored to be able to take the Reagan to the Bush whenever I hop behind the wheel. Not too many urbanites can claim that same privilege!
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alexander troup, says:
And you should Cho....that is why we accept you...you are honest and have a sense of duty in telling us what you think and...I do respect you....despite what the other party's think or say today..then again....One way streets dont go far, A/T,Name that lane game...
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Anonymous
5 months, 1 week agoDC, says:
I've been saying Pearl for some time now
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5 months, 1 week agoSarah Blaskovich, says:
We appreciate your comments, pabloindallas and chrisdanger, but these got offensive. Let's keep the discussion to more appropriate banter.
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Chris Kidd, says:
Mine was not intended to be offensive, just an honest and candid observation, so if it offended anyones gentler senses, I apologize.
However, I do stick to my point concerning the street naming idea, I think we should do more an "honorary placing" than changing the name outright. Plus, we have plenty of local deserving latins who deserve a street named after them before Chavez, who did a quick 12-15 mins in town sometime 20 years ago. Im guessing the LULAC gang has forgotten about them and their contributions accordingly.
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pabloindallas, says:
Ok, now that you have removed my original comment, I'll be succinct: Most folks in this town are tired of this street-renaming crapola.
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alexander troup, says:
Well, it has to exist..Pablo...communities old and new are that way....and who made Dallas in the first place, I dont like it..but it has to happen,.....kind of like renaming Fairmont st.. to George Michaels in 2014..
And when the French came to Dallas in the 1850's,they would name streets after their world...like Cantagrel or Germania or Willaim Tell or even Junius....and so on...
Yes it is a drag, but hey arent we a drag if we dont compromise.....besides, the Lettice toco is one of my main meals...and my background is very ......old and real...admit it...who are you angry Amercian's and who are you angry Immigrant's.... A/T, Name that lane game...
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Scott Doyle, says:
Part of Pearl going through Farmers Market is already named after Cesar Chavez.
Then why bother with all of this nonsense.
Get jobs.
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Tracy Yost, says:
Only if somebody coughs up some $$ for a new neon sign !!
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Andrew, says:
As I have said before, why not Elm or Live Oak? Its not like the trees will rise up against us like on The Happening.
Also, the cost must be covered by private donations or wait for a new street to be built. We cannot waste taxpayer money renaming.
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nina_chawla, says:
There's alredy a Caser Chavez in Austin. Doesn't this suffice?
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Scott Doyle, says:
Nina, I agree - already <a href="http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2008/aug/01/dallas-should-rename-ross-avenue-cesar-chavez/#c31363">brought that up once</a> in this debacle and it wasn't really addressed.
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alexander troup, says:
Nope we have to do the whole state.....But keep the streets that have been named 90 percent it looks like.......give or take.....and I am being modest.....and open minded to agree on this story...has merit and meaning.....A/T, Name that lane game ...one more time....please...
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pabloindallas, says:
Alex T, your writing style is esconced somewhere between babble and drivel. I have to move to another dimension to unravel your stuff. It is usually a fruitless journey and I am left scratching my head.
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pabloindallas, says:
lost an "n" somewhere
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alexander troup, says:
Thanks...Pablo..while I am or was an Authority on Hispanic Communites in Dallas, Some years back....lets realize... that the things we say today could mean something tomorrow, while I may not hold a degree in this thing... I do hold good intention's on what we should discuss and in humors sense as my second best....
Thank's for the comment's...but, realize this...I am being the best I can to be your or anyone's freind...A/T.
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pabloindallas, says:
Alex T, duly noted and appreciated!
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Jason Rice, says:
Nina - while there is still a single address that does not somehow honor the late great Cesar Chavez of Arizona, none of us can rest comfortably.
Where there is a Lane or a Boulevard... he should be there. Where there is a Court or Crossing... he should be there.
If there is so much as four pieces of unfused asphalt, some semblance of Cesar Chavez should be erected and maintained at public expense.
Until then we are all just bigots.
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ch0, says:
I never cared much for the word "tarmacadam." Something needs to be done, and quickly!
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Jason Rice, says:
chO - your cries are heard.
Brilliantly, you have solved EVERYTHING.
Henceforth, throughout the land let "tarmac" no longer be used, nor "Road", nor "Trail". All things formerly paved will be Cesar Chavez. And then all methods of transport everywhere will honor this brave Union Organizer from another state.
Pearl Expressway becomes Pearl Cesar Chavez. Likewise, Central Cesar Chavez, George W. Bush Toll-Cesar Chavez and Elm Cesar Chavez will forever memorialize not only this great man's work, but those unwilling to rest until all byways and pikes bear the grand weight of this marvelous political juggernaut.
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pabloindallas, says:
Jason and cho: excellent work.
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