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Wednesday, March 25, 2009

Sen. John Carona proposes best sobriety checkpoint bill I’ve ever opposed


The bill focuses the tactic in tightly on its stated goal of reducing drunk driving while avoiding Big Brother-esque pitfalls and revenue generation schemes that make civil libertarians wince at the tactic.

I'm not a fan, at all, of "sobriety checkpoints" on the roadways. Having grown up in the Cold War era, the whole idea has a bit too much of a "Can I see your papers, Comrade?" flavor to it for my tastes. Checkpoints where armed, uniformed agents of the state stop and question average citizens driving down the street were the kind of thing we used to point to under Communism in the old Soviet Union and say, "That doesn't happen in America."

But today, in many states, it does. And perhaps soon in Texas, too.

That said, SB 298 by Sen. John Carona authorizing sobriety checkpoints is one of the best efforts I've seen to focus the tactic in tightly on its stated goal of reducing drunk driving while avoiding Big Brother-esque pitfalls and revenue generation schemes that make civil libertarians wince at the tactic. Carona's bill was placed on yesterday's "intent calendar" in the senate (meaning it was eligible to be debated and voted on), but was usurped on the agenda by debates over higher education and the top ten percent rule. It could be voted on in the Texas Senate as soon as today.

I still oppose sobriety checkpoints and thus on principle I oppose this bill. I just don't like the idea of police stopping motorists without probable cause, believing traditional DWI enforcement tactics work better and are less invasive. But if you think drunk driving is so bad that it warrants use of more totalitarian tactics, the limits Sen. Carona places on checkpoints are a laudable effort to address the main criticisms of the practice while still authorizing its use.

Here's a summary of the legislation, which passed 9-0 out of the Senate Transportation and Homeland Security Committee:

* Law enforcement agencies may establish sobriety checkpoints for the sole purpose of enforcing drunk driving laws, not as a way to check for warrants, liability insurance, etc..

* Agencies must put procedures for choosing sites and operating checkpoints in writing and publish them online along with dates and times (but not locations) of the checkpoints.

* Procedures for selecting who to stop must be "reasonably predictable and nonarbitrary."

* "The criteria for selecting the location ... must include the number of traffic accidents in the vicinity ... in which the use of alcohol was a factor ... in the preceding 12 months and the number of arrests for intoxication-related offenses in that vicinity in the preceding 12 months."

* Signs ahead of the checkpoint must advise oncoming motorists it's coming up.

* Officers conducting the checkpoint must wear uniforms.

* Encounters with motorists must be videotaped. (Note: Shouldn't there be audio?)

* Officers may not ask to see motorists' drivers' license or insurance unless there is reasonable susupicion to believe they've committed an offense.

* Each stop should take less than three minutes unless there is reasonable suspicion to think an offense has been committed, and police must make "reasonable efforts" to ensure each stop won't take more than one minute.

* The total time motorists must wait to get through the checkpoint should not exceed ten minutes, and "reasonable efforts" must be made to get traffic through in less than five.

* "A law enforcement agency may not operate a sobriety checkpoint at one location for more than four hours and may not operate a checkpoint at the same location more than once in a 12-month period. For the purposes of this subsection, sobriety checkpoints located within one mile of each other are considered to be at the same location."

* Finally, records about the event - including time, location, duration, procedures, number of stops and arrests, and which officers were involved - must be maintained for at least five years.

That's a pretty nifty piece of bill writing.

I've long believed the reason law enforcement so badly wants "sobriety checkpoints" was as a platform for revenue generation schemes, either nabbing the 10% of Texas drivers with outstanding arrest warrants or the 25% with no liability insurance. But this proposal essentially eliminates those motives by disallowing officers from asking for ID without reasonable suspicion and videotaping the encounter. That forces agencies to operate sobriety checkpoints transparently, without improperly expanding their focus to other areas.

Carona has crafted a serious, interesting compromise on a subject that's been a biennial source of bitter contention. Indeed, part of me almost wants to support SB 298 just so we can stop fighting about it at the Lege every two years and move onto something else.

This is by far the best sobriety checkpoint bill I've ever opposed.

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jtmbls, anonymous:

“Law enforcement agencies may establish sobriety checkpoints for the sole purpose of enforcing drunk driving laws, not as a way to check for warrants, liability insurance, etc.”

It is laughable that you consider this point a bonus. I can’t really think of a good time to give people who have outstanding warrants or drivers with no insurance a free pass.

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Travis Bush, verified:

  • Procedures for selecting who to stop must be "reasonably predictable and nonarbitrary."

Isn't a checkpoint arbitrary enough?

"I can’t really think of a good time to give people who have outstanding warrants or drivers with no insurance a free pass."

I would be interested to know if the arrests in other states at these checkpoints have solely been DUI and DWI offenses.

And yeah MADD would suspend pretty much every citizen right if it helped their cause...

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duispy, anonymous:

Part I like about this is the requirement for them to publish the dates and times on the internet. This will cause people to stop and think about whether they really want to go out that evening and get drunk. Keeping these checkpoints a "secret" eliminates much of their deterrent value. Once they are on the internet sites like www.duispy.com can pick up on them and even text them to whoever signs up. Everyone should be aware of when their county is conducting a DUI Checkpoint.

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Travis Bush, verified:

Also, if you look around at reports from other states, people ARE being arrested for other violations at these checkpoints...and don't forget, we're talking about Texas cops...Think you won't get profiled?

And then there is this little gem from a MADD website..

"FACT: In general, sobriety checkpoints can be thought of as being very similar to other accepted operations such as security checkpoints set up at airports to detect air passengers attempting to carry on weapons or bombs."

http://www.madd-nh.org/checkpts.htm

LOL who writes this tripe?

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Rick Yost, verified:

Here's a fun little quiz kids: What's the difference between auto check points and having law enforcement blatantly come knock on your door to see what mischief you might be up to...this way you come to them.

This is turning into a society that is anything but free. And we continue to let folks like MADD (thank you Travis) herd us right down the chute.

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John Turner-McClelland, verified:

Maybe MADD could push along increased mass transit, so we would have more options to get home when intoxicated. And do not tell me a taxi is an option. Not at $5 a foot driven.

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Jason Rice, verified:

Ah, c'mon Yost! You can be so paranoid!

Like here' s great example. Day our shopping
Nice guys just checking on the well being of a dad and kid out and about. They even have nifty little berets... now where is this.... Gaza ... oooh. Not a good example.

Lemme get back to you on that...

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jtmbls, anonymous:

Hmmm...How about something a little more Sound of Music Jason?

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Rick Yost, verified:

I've said it before, and I'll say it again- just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not out to get you.

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Colleen Walsh, verified:

I'd like this bill if the reasonable suspicion qualifier was raised to probable cause for the ID/insurance thing. I believe that for many people, regardless of what their legal circumstances really are, the officers at these checkpoints would find anything reasonably suspicious. If that were changed, I'd be okay with this bill being on the books.

However, there is a definite trend in America to give up freedom for security. Whatever happened to quality of life?

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Jason Rice, verified:

::give up freedom for security

Sheesh! That's an understatement.

I really can't see the threat of a checkpoint stopping the kind of drinking and driving that needs curbing so from my perspective - a person that doesn't bother drinking - it's just another huge chunk of my civil rights swallowed by a tiny special interest.

Fear is a powerful weapon to use against your own people. But rest assured, they WILL eventually come for you too.

(And Yost - you have good reason to be paranoid. We all talked about that at the region-wide meeting yesterday.)

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jtmbls, anonymous:

Wow! So let me get this straight...It's not acceptable to drink and drive but it is acceptable to drive without insurance and/or roam freely with outstanding arrest warrants?

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Chris Kidd, verified:

Im in agreement, this is a bad idea from the east germany playbook circa 1974. Going after drunks by current means is working and has been more successful than "roadblocking". Its just another example of those Carrie Nation-type b*ches at MADD getting their earwigs in the statehouse, trying to nanny over us and control our behavior...

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Jason Rice, verified:

::acceptable to drive without insurance and/or roam freely with outstanding arrest warrants?

Obviously. Otherwise who would mow your lawn.
<font size="-2">(That should take care of my minimum requirement of cultural insensitivity for the day)</font>

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jtmbls, anonymous:

I think you're good for the week Jason! ;)

This is why grieving mothers should not be allowed to set policy.

And this... *"I'd like this bill if the reasonable suspicion qualifier was raised to probable cause for the ID/insurance thing"*...is why people who break the law should not be allowed to set policy.

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HotRodLincoln, anonymous:

More wasted energy and legislation on enforcing post-de-facto laws rather funding a win-win solution...increasing R&amp;D and technology WITHIN cars to keep drivers from DUI.

How bout using technology and manpower for prevention instead of using them for enforcement and punishment...gee what a novel idea huh!

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Travis Bush, verified:

And people want to give the cops more authority?

http://www.pegasusnews.com/news/2009/...

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jtmbls, anonymous:

You mean like making breathalyzers standard equipment in cars? I would be down with that.

Then maybe they could make one for my phone so I can’t call or text anyone if I am over the limit.

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Travis Bush, verified:

Your computer definitely requires such a device.

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Jason Rice, verified:

Like a Peg (Google) Goggles?

Sure, Google beat us, but they beat everybody!

Only, the numerically challenged around here would be cut out....

meaning only Clay and I would argue regularly. Sometimes ScoDo.

Nah! Let Tumbles continue to surf sauced.

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Jason Rice, verified:

And although this incarnation reeks of "clique" a simple re-theming of the above might serve to <strike>shut a few of us up</strike> remind us to play nice

Tough mousing babe!

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Travis Bush, verified:

What is this "play nice" you speak of?

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Steve Thurman, verified:

The word "reasonable" is used numerous times in the proposed sobriety checkpoint law. After witnessing the DPD - Ryan Moats episode, does anyone truly expect the police to be capable of anything closely resembling "reasonable".

On that basis alone this proposed law, and others like it, should be struck down.

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Jason Rice, verified:

Trav - never underestimate the use of "eye-hand coordination" in basic sobriety metrics.

Play not-so-nice

And yeah - I'm with linebacker. They don't like yer looks? Off ya go!

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Travis Bush, verified:

Nice! Do I win an iPhone?

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Jesus Valadez, verified:

You get my iPhone instead. I'm tired of it.

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Travis Bush, verified:

Sponsored by lotteria.com...

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jtmbls, anonymous:

Jesus - You should give him your Tivo.

Jason - Where can I buy one of those Punch the Hippie Freak games???

Back on topic, apologies from Chief Schmunkle after the fact are all well and good but DPD needs a serious review of their hiring policies. This guy never should have made it through the door. I suppose it’s a difficult situation because not too many people are willing to do the job but good Lord, do they hire just anybody?

And it’s not just abuse of power if they don’t like your looks, as Jason said. It’s no fun at all when one does like the look of you and wants in your pants. Drunk, off-duty, no badge and he still thinks he’s God! Fortunately I am surprisingly spunky for my size and cuss like a sailor, so alls well that ends well, but still…That experience has completely changed the way I look at police officers. Point being that this particular person, prior to being hired by the DPD had a low level job, bordering on seedy and imo is as dumb as a box of rocks. All I could think of after that happened was how in the world did he get this job of honor?

I think the public should really hold the Chief’s feet to the fire and find out who we are hiring to "protect" us. What procedures has he put in place to weed out the power mad before he hands them a gun and a badge? I don’t want to hear how he can’t fire anyone because of a re-hire policy. I want to know what he’s doing to prevent having these issues at the door.

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jtmbls, anonymous:

I just totally posted this in the wrong thread. :(

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Travis Bush, verified:

Lay off teh sauce, jtmbls!

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DC, anonymous:

Wow. Ridiculous. SRSLY..."traditional DWI enforcement.." like swabbing blood off I-75? If there's something to worry about it's the ah forget it keep going strong Dallas the future is just around the corner!!

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Jesus Valadez, verified:

jtmbls, I'm trying to figure out where exactly you wanted to post it...

Tivo, hippie games... DPD? WTF?!

What kind of story involves all 3 of those things?

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Scott Doyle, verified:

*Officers may not ask to see motorists' drivers' license or insurance unless there is reasonable susupicion to believe they've committed an offense.*

Jesus H. Christ. Senator Carona is quickly becoming a nemesis of the citizens, imo.

Big issue with current DWI law is common squirming by cops just to reach probable cause for a stop. Past that, sobriety tests are essentially designed with the presumption you're guilty until proven innocent (which is the same presumption at a checkpoint - double whammy!). No reason to give goddamn cops even more authority to abuse.

How is this jerk still in office?

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jtmbls, anonymous:

Everywhere Jesus. Concert ticket stubs, bar napkins, the phone book. Could you take out a billboard for me?

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Jesus Valadez, verified:

I already gave my billboard money to the Atheists.

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jtmbls, anonymous:

I thought you could walk on water...so disappointing.

I am incredibly annoyed at the prospect of being delayed, detained, harangued or otherwise sacrificed to the mood or whim of Johnny Law because there are still idiots who refuse to take a cab, designate a driver or just not drink.

Most of the bars I have been to in Addison have a pretty good check-point system as you walk out the door. On average, about three different employees size you up, ask if you are driving and usually have a cab at the ready. I would assume they do this for everyone and not just me. At least I hope they do.

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