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Tuesday, November 10, 2009

Dallas mayor’s church of choice causing flap in LGBT circles


I’m disappointed by the comments that say that Mayor Leppert forfeited his right to privacy and worship where he pleases because he’s the mayor of Dallas.

Last week, the Dallas Voice blog, Instant Tea, featured an entry written by John Wright expressing disappointment with Dallas Mayor Tom Leppert’s decision to join the First Baptist Church in downtown Dallas. John’s rationale for his disappointment was that he believed that the decision was “a slap in the face” to the LGBT community because of the Pastor Robert Jeffress’ outspoken anti-homosexual stance (there was even a protest in front of his church in 2008) and Mr. Wright believes the mayor is simply tying himself to the Baptist machine for political clout.

Here’s some of what I responded with on his blog:

…just because the mayor works to support different people around the city doesn’t mean that when it comes to his place of worship he’s going to choose a church far different than his own background and personal beliefs.

As the story continues to play out on the Dallas Voice blog, I’m disappointed by the comments from individuals in our community that say in essence that Mayor Leppert forfeited his right to privacy and worship where he pleases because he’s the mayor of Dallas. What madness! Are we saying now that every political official that supports our community’s liberation must now attend a openly welcoming religious congregation themselves? If that is so, then should we please tap the shoulders of all the other gay worshipers in First Baptist Church currently and send them the memo just in case they decide to run for city office in the future? In fact, send it to gay members of churches across the D/FW metroplex, why don’t you?

What’s worse about this sentiment is that it sounds like it’s coming from individuals who aren’t even churchgoers themselves, yet they seem to understand the personal nature of choosing a place to worship. It smacks of ignorance that just because you go to a certain church, that you believe everything that church espouses, and it's arrogant that just because you’re gay-tolerant that you’re automatically expected to feel at home in a denomination or religion different than your personal background strictly for political gain.

I guess I just know too many gay Christians who are working to change hearts and minds from inside the church walls. Religion is a personal matter and, yes, by joining that church, the mayor (and others) may very well be siding with Pastor Jeffress of First Baptist on the issue of gays. However, he also may NOT believe that, as many Christians don’t and still attend that same church weekly. Why? It’s about personal relationships with family and friends, and perhaps certain ministries that speak to them. Just because three identical bars in the same neighborhood claim to have the same spirits doesn’t mean you’ll automatically feel at home in every one of them.

Finally, in the spirit of full disclosure, I do feel that if you are a religious person and you are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender (and Tom Leppert is none of these), that you should at least consider a place of worship that fully embraces all that you are. However, I will respect your personal decision either way, as much as I’d ask you to respect mine.

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Rick Yost, verified:

Religion is politics with even worse consequences for choosing the wrong side.

2 years, 6 months ago
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Jason Rice, verified:

Umm..

Mandatory tolerance isn't.

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Travis Bush, verified:

I'm betting the Mayor joined their church because they are about to bring a huge construction to downtown.

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Travis Bush, verified:

um..that should read "construction project"...

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JW Richard, verified:

It's possible, Travis, however I agree with Jason in that I don't believe that he has to obligatorily disavow his Southern Baptist roots to appease the gay community any more than he should seek mandatory enrollment of his family on the Friendship West Baptist Church books to appease any frictions in the African-American community.

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DC, anonymous:

Will there be a massive neon Jesus swimming pool?

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DubiousBrother, anonymous:

WWOD

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OEsophagus, anonymous:

instant tea bag.

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jerryt, anonymous:

simply amaaaaazing how this lgbt group thinks that all things in life is about them, and the media fawns over them for what reason?

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alexander troup, verified:

A massive Jesus parking lot DC......A/T,..St James parking an valet service.....

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Travis Bush, verified:

Not a swimming pool! Most probably a baptismal pool and after the SoBaps spend all that money on downtown, all mayors henceforth with go for a dunk.

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Pavel Lishin, verified:

I heard that if you baptize a gay baby, the other babies that get baptized after it can catch <i>the gay</i>.

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Jason Rice, verified:

That's so dumb Pavel. You only get the gay from kissing boys.

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Jesus Valadez, verified:

Kissing boys... lol You don't have to go that far to catch <i>the gay</i>.

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Rachel Skinner, verified:

GREAT article that finally speaks out for the "other side" (church goers under attack) and simply offers ideas without preaching. Good job!

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DC, anonymous:

Pseudomas

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DC, anonymous:

or -monas

WHO CAN'T SPELL ANY MORE???? EMMEMEME!!

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DC, anonymous:

The next time I see Donna Chen Ima gonna kizz her on the lipps.

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Rick Yost, verified:

I'm all for equality across the board, but c'mon. How far is the rest of the world expected to bend over to accept gays in society? Yes, I meant to say it that way.

It would seem to me that just being gay might be stressful enough in this up-tight society, but to try to be religious too? Talk about a pain in the ass!

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Pavel Lishin, verified:

DC's drunk!

(Me too.)

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Pavel Lishin, verified:

DC kizzed a cook and liked it.

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Jason Rice, verified:

::DC kizzed a cook and liked it.

Does that make DC home-ec-sexual or just a culinarian?

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alexander troup, verified:

They are apart of the Parking Valet program....Take a look next time your on St Paul, the buildings are play ground, parking lot and parking lots....A/T, 4 wheels and a cross...Oh..Borat is coming to work valet for Jesus....

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Colleen Walsh, verified:

While I do associate homophobia with the Southern Baptist congregation I grew up in, First Baptist has 1,500+ attendants each Sunday(times TWO for each service) making it a mega-church. As mega-churches are kind of a recent development, Mr Leppert might feel more comfortable somewhere a bit smaller (and maybe less vocal about their interpretation of Leviticus).

If he wanted a church that reminded him of his SB roots, why didn't he pick a smaller Baptist church with a less outspoken pastor? There are quite a few in Dallas. Leppert might have chosen First Baptist Dallas for the familiarity, since there are many other choices, his attendance does smell a little political. His intentions probably didn't include agitating the LGBT community, he obviously did not take them into consideration.

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Rick Yost, verified:

Colleen- I'm not a fan of the guy by any means, but what gives you or 'the lgbt folks' the right to tell anyone where they should or should not go to church?
I agree all church-is politics, but does anyone tell you where to go?

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Jason Rice, verified:

I always get tickled when the LGBT front collides with Southern Baptists.

Ya see, in my home town of about 100K, our square little backwards college had one of the early gay student unions in Texas. Ironically, the week the Gay Student Union announced formation, membership at the Baptist Student Union fell accordingly by over 50%.

Yep, they were all hiding in plain sight and yep, we all knew it. Ya never saw so many flaming Baptists till then.

And Rick, I know that image has GOT to give you the giggles. It did me.

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Colleen Walsh, verified:

Rick, I don't believe the LGBT community should tell him or anyone where to worship, but Leppert's attendance there does indicate that a different mayor would be in the LGBT's best interest. Unfortunately, Leppert's attendance at First Baptist will probably help assure his tenure.

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Travis Bush, verified:

but Leppert's attendance there does indicate that a different mayor would be in the LGBT's best interest

You mean a gay mayor, correct?

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Colleen Walsh, verified:

Or a mayor who, at the very least, doesn't attend an organization that perpetuates misunderstanding and generalized hate towards LGBT people.

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Rick Yost, verified:

Sorry Colleen, that's not much of a substantial argument. You're still a lobbyist- trying to sway a politician to lean your way for political reasons.

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Colleen Walsh, verified:

Human right are just politics. News to me.

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Pavel Lishin, verified:

"Human right are just politics."

Yup.

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Colleen Walsh, verified:

:P

I don't believe anything happens without "lobbying" and human rights are worth the effort.

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OEsophagus, anonymous:

Nobody needs a "right" to tell anybody to do anything.

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Jason Rice, verified:

What if he just agreed to carry a "man-bag" or get a spring Prada wardrobe? Does he actually have to date a guy to be viable?

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Travis Bush, verified:

I could be wrong, but it seems to me that at some point for some in the LGBT community, live and let live stopped being a two way street. Does it have to be all or nothing, because that's what it looks like?

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Jason Rice, verified:

Yup. = long ago became >

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alexander troup, verified:

Well....The second coming is some 30 years of, rumor has it at the First Baptist Church and Cafe and the Mayor want to be apart of the congregation when it happends...and after this project he wil run for Senator, then get with Palin to run for Vice President....A/T, Ambition, folklore, myths and lies make up perfect humans in the eyes of the beholder....

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