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Thursday, March 4, 2010

Kindal’s Cafe in Dallas having rocky start before it even opens


Opening date pushed back again and David Sanborn show in March will not happen.

Kindal's, the ambitious restaurant-jazz bar scheduled to open in January, February, March, has pushed back its opening date again, this time to April 1.

"We're having a sneak peek affair this Saturday with Chico DeBarge but we're not opening an actual restaurant until April 1," said Kimberly of KB Management, who's helping run the place.

Kimberly was at the restaurant's office on Thursday to answer the phone -- which is better luck than that had by Patrick Rains, a representative for jazz musician David Sanborn.

Sanborn was booked at Kindal's for March 19-20. But Rains was frustrated after repeated efforts to finalize the contract with club management.

"They booked the show back in early November," Rains says. "The way it typically goes is, 'Here’s a contract and a deposit.' [The club] would send a deposit 60 days in advance. No deposit came, and for a couple of weeks it was, 'The bank sent it out wrong,' and then, 'I'm sorry, it's going to be next week.' The last conversation, it was, 'We're a little stressed, we're hosting all these NBA parties, we'll send it on Monday.' Well, NBA Weekend came and went, and so did that Monday. Since then, I haven't been able to get anybody to return a phone call."

A call placed to the restaurant's assistant manager on Wednesday, with voicemail asking for a return call, was never returned.

Kimberly says that the restaurant has just started keeping office hours this week.

"We've just been swamped trying to get it open," she says. "We thought that after the All Star event, things would clear up. We just didn't realize we had so much to do." As for the lack of return calls, she said, "We've been swamped. I know that’s not a good answer."

Rains says he's sympathetic to the obstacles of opening a new place, but the club's lack of communication put him in a bad position.

"Anybody who's ever remodeled a closet or even known someone who's remodeled a closet knows that delays are part of the game," he says. "Delays aren't an issue, as long as people communicate. We were starting to get emails from fans in Dallas wondering what's happening. At this point, we're done. We have to assume it's not happening and figure out how to cut our losses."

Rains says that the national jazz community would love to see a place like Kindal's succeed, where fans can sit and have a bottle of wine and watch a show.

"We were all excited; people in my world that represent the kind of artists they were talking about because Dallas has been without a really great venue for a long time," he says. "It's exciting that there might be a place, but they might have a hard time getting people to believe them."



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mcdisc, anonymous:

As an employee of Kindal's, I was hired 6 weeks ago and worked 3 days during the all-star week-end, but they will not even return my calls or e-mails so i dont know if i have a job or not but i am beginning to think it may not be a place I want to work. They do seem to be very unorganized which might work fine for a club, but for a restaurant it will never fly.

3 years, 2 months ago
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yezzur, anonymous:

they are turning into Che, HOOD

3 years, 2 months ago
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ronah_t, anonymous:

Taken from a FB post regarding Kindals. Maisha Smith Here it is in a nut shell: Would've been a nice place to have a private party. Business owner(s) must have never owned a business before. You don't serve spirits in plastic cups if you want an upscale place. You don't have a line of people mostly women in high heels stand outside in a line for almost 2 hours after paying 20.00 for valet to be ... See Moreapproached by a staff member saying and I quote "YOU CAN PAY another 20.00 to skip everyone in line" that already bought tickets to the canceled show from 2 weeks ago. Yet to get inside after being told standing room only unless you want to spend 100 to 500 for seats you can't see from because of all the people standing are standing right in front of the booths and the stage. To go out to the very nice patio area to smell weed from people lighting up. JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT, GROWN AND SEXY.....NOT KINDALS.

ronah_t, anonymous:

Rona Hardy Monica did her thang for15 min; Kindals is a joke! All the stuff they are posting... no apologies for screwing people out of their money. Charging $100 for a seat and you can't afford glassware or china... Im surprised you didn't charge for the kleenex we were given to wipe our hands with in the bathroom. Yes, Kleenex. I suppose the paper towels, glassware,china, and chairs/tables were all confiscated by the rental company when they didn't get their $$$.

ronah_t, anonymous:

They going down JUST like that pleather board hanging from the 2nd floor! It's ok if they block me! I have enough info to post EVERYWHERE! I think I should go to Tom Joyners page and let THEM know, send a strawberry letter to the Steve Harrvey show......oh it could go on and on!Kindal's Live should be adequately named Kindal's Lying. They erased my original post but the great thing about these social media outlets is you can repost. Kindals is the worst place I have been in my 20+ yrs in Dallas. Regardless of their location, and decor, the people working there are rude, have no customer service skills, unorganized, Con Artists. Ya'll knew the kitchen staff had quit; Ya'll didn't pay 'em. You knew you didnt have money for Monica. So why not refund the people of Dallas and save your reputation. Oh and charging $100+ to sit down. Now you know Rosa Parks is turning over in her grave on that one.

ronah_t, anonymous:

Queen W from Addison wrote Zero Stars!!! Say it with me BULL SHYT!!! I totally agree!! Rip off is exactly what that was. I spent $80 to watch some gay and ghetto folks entertain us on the dance floor! I have nothing against either but that's not why I was there! Who cares about the middle man... We paid the club... not the middle man (promoter) I was sooooo pissed off! It took everything in me not to ask for my money back! We waited 4 hours for a 15 minute performance!! The drinks sucked upstairs and downstairs and who wants to drink out of cheap plastic cups after paying $9.50 for a drink!! They have all of these Bar table and and bar areas... not very many chairs... The parking sucks!!! Valet $20 and reg. $10 and you're paying to park across the street in public parking... It's not even their parking lot! WTH! I don't care about paying for anything that's worth my time! This wasn't! I really thought I found me a new spot and was looking forward to upcoming events! But I don't think so!!! The only good thing may have been the DJ! They can have it! This is a prime example of how black clubs do not last!!! I'm heading back to Beamers on Thursday nights!! Peace!

beatingboredom, anonymous:

Dont waste your time or $$$$$$ at Crave -- same owners..same bs soon to open in Oak Cliff -- wow, tapas??? how played out

2 years, 12 months ago
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Clay213, anonymous:

I don't know which sounds worse: This restaurant or the people who apparently go there

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