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Monday, April 9, 2012
Fellowship Church in Grapevine uses live animals in sermons
New program dismays animal rescue community.
GRAPEVINE Animal advocates are dismayed by a controversial program initiated this weekend by Fellowship Church in Grapevine, which used live animals during religious services.
Called "Wild," the program involved Pastor Ed Young's use of a lion in a cage and his clutching a lamb to "communicate biblical truths."
A photo posted on the church's Facebook page of its Easter service showed Young preaching on stage to an assembly outdoors, holding a clinging lamb while standing next to the caged lion. The caption reads: "Pastor Ed bringing the message of Easter. Jesus is a lion-like lamb and a lamb-like lion!"
While many in the congregation were unfazed by the proximity of the animals, others questioned their use as props in a sermon and posted comments expressing their distaste.
"You do not need live animals as props to teach the word of God," said one commenter.
"Please stop putting your congregation and the wild animals at risk," said another.
"Doesn't the power of the Easter Message have the ability to stand on its own, without the spectacle of a three-ring-circus?" asked one commenter.
Spokesman Andy Boyd defended the program as being designed to "shine light on all of God's creations."
"One thing our pastor does a phenomenal job of, just like Christ used illustrations to communicate God's message, the greatest way to do that is to follow that model," Boyd said. "That could be using props, animals on stage."
Boyd said that, despite the fact that they were caged, the animals were not treated poorly.
"That lion is a 17-year-old lion who's been cared for his entire life," he said. "He's been in movies. He has a 55-acre ranch where he roams freely."
He declined to identify the ranch. "I want to respect the privacy of that ranch," he said.
Young, you may recall, is the pastor who recommended couples have sex every day. His lavish lifestyle was scrutinized in 2011 by WFAA's Brett Shipp, who found that Fellowship has an $8.4 million jet for Young's use tucked away at a hangar at Alliance Airport.
Fellowship may have exacerbated the animal situation by deleting critical comments on its Facebook page.
"I'm not sure now what saddens me more -- the fact that they chose inhumane theatrics over simply preaching the Lord's message OR the fact that they won't address the concerns of the people ... some of their own congregation. I'm sure many of us have prayed about this today," said one commenter.
Fellowship's description of the "Wild" series says that "Ed Young is joined by some the most powerful animals in the world." In addition to a lion, photos include a bear, giraffe, elephant, and rhesus monkey.
Boyd said he wasn't sure what other animals would be incorporated or how long the series would last.
"I do not know what Ed is planning on bringing -- we expect the unexpected," he said. "It could go two weeks, three weeks, four weeks. I do know that he mentioned we're going to have a dog-friendly service where people can bring their dogs."
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EdWood, anonymous:
Is there talking donkeys and snakes?
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damn yankee, anonymous:
No, just talking honkeys.
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mezzetin_subaquatic, anonymous:
what about barking dogs?
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lisaltx, anonymous:
Whoever supplied the lion should lose whatever permits they are required to have to keep them, and lose the animals, too. I can't believe it is good for a 17 y/o lion to be in a cage in the sun and from that picture it doesn't look like room to move, potty or have food and water.
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Scott, anonymous:
With some bitter herbs and matzo, that lamb would be totally in step with the season.
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davisp, anonymous:
I can't believe a church as big as Fellowship with a pastor like Ed Young, would miss the very fundamentally of basic message of EASTER. Animals are God's creatures, not human property, nor utilities, nor resources, nor commodities, but precious beings in God's sight. ... Christians whose eyes are fixed on the awfulness of crucifixion are in a special position to understand the awfulness of innocent suffering. The Cross of Christ is God's absolute identification with the weak, the powerless, and the vulnerable, but most of all with unprotected, undefended, innocent suffering.
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Mrspharmacist, anonymous:
As a third generation preacher's kid, I've seen some unsettling things, but Ed Young's latest stunt is careless, arrogant, and embarrassing to not only Christianity, but also to mankind in general. I hope the kids at least noticed The Crazy.
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BrandonR, anonymous:
Is this what churches have to do to lure in increasingly-savvy young people these days? Gee, it must be getting harder and harder to brainwash children into believing nonsense.
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Squandylee, anonymous:
For you that were not at any of the services but chose to past judgement, The Lion is very well trained to his handlers commands, and the lamb was NO WHERE NEAR the Lions Cage at any time, at the service I attended. His analogy of the Jesus to the Lamb and the Lion were taken in total context with the message and everyone there that knows their Bible understood. For you that can't quite understand, best pick up the BEST SELLER for all MEN and do some reading.
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katertott, anonymous:
Squandylee, do you not see the picture at the top of the page? That poor 4-day old baby lamb looks awfully close to the caged lion to me.
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bradgiez, anonymous:
Well then I guess boooo to the circus too......and the zoo! Seriously people. This article sure takes the opportunity to bash Ed Young at every turn.....I have been to Christmas services and Men's conventions there before and they are what most would say "over the top". But Ed Young thinks outside the box( the religious box that so many are stuck in), and quite frankly he is reaching more people with the power of the gospel because of it. In Genesis God gave man dominion over the earth and everything in it( including Lions and Lambs) and I don't believe Ed Young is abusing that responsibility. I think he is using something that God created that everyone can identify with to Point People towards our Creator.
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rexb, anonymous:
I was there...it was great! Mighty is our God! Incredible way to demonstrate the personalities of our Lord!
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Dana_taylor, anonymous:
If Ed Young is a professional lamb trainer, cool. if he is not, he has no business handling a newborn animal. animals can't speak for themselves so those of us with a heart do. No churches or theatres should use live animals for there "shows". a circus is bad enough, but if they and zoos are trained ans compassionate, it can work.
this church is ridiculous. Pastor Ed is ridiculous. Makes me ashamed to be a Christian.
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nikkysangeleli, anonymous:
Did you even watch the service? I am embarrased for you all. Pastor Ed is a mentor and a wonderful one at that. He has changed my family we adore the church and each and every service. I thought the publicity was going to be good and looked it up to see about of JUDGEMENTAL sinners. watch your mouths people. God is watching.
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robynflessner, anonymous:
Dear Squandylee, Just to be clear, I did not "past judgement," as you like to put it, but I did pass judgement on this distasteful and unnecessary representation of God's power. Furthermore, as an animal advocate, I have to question your pastor's ability to convey the already-powerful messages of the Bible if he has to rely on the spectacle of bringing wild animals into the sanctuary to make his point.
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EdWood, anonymous:
if I give more than my usual 10%, can I ride the lion as it chases the lamb?
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damn yankee, anonymous:
> watch your mouths people. God is watching.
Oh, great, he can lip-read, too?
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lisaltx, anonymous:
robynflessner -- well said. This guy is into spectacles and publicity. And a 4 day old lamb? The mother, wherever she was, must have been frantic and the lamb had to be severely stressed. But hey, it's just an animal so no big deal (insert sarcasm here).
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Jason Rice, verified:
Yankee - he's got a whole act. Caught him in Vegas, I think.... maybe Vail.
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heresyschmeresy, anonymous:
I love the fact that this mega-church snake oil salesman preacher has an $8.5 million private jet! Jesus needs your hard-earned cash, ye sinners! Pastor Ed needs it, too, so keep it comin'!
I'm thinking we could come up with a great idea for a sitcom called "Pastor Ed," wherein said preacher assumes the form of a talking lamb that jet-sets around the Bible belt spreading his holy brand of hijinks!
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Alex Bentley, staff:
KRLD reports that the Grapevine police dept. is looking into whether or not the church had the proper permit to have a live animal on stage. Young is quoted as saying that he called the police to inquire about a permit and they didn't call him back, but the police say they have no record of that call.
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heresyschmeresy, anonymous:
I'd like to see Pastor Ed's tax return. I'll bet he's doing very well, thanks to his gullible flock and the quaint children's tales of Zombie Jesus and his loving daddy. Hey believers, where's your savior? His apostles were convinced he'd return in their lifetimes. So were the gospel authors, who quoted Jesus as saying just that. Of course, how could they quote him very accurately if they never met him and are writing about him decades after his death with only a few people's flawed memories to rely on? No worries, just keep using bubble gum and duct tape to patch up the myriad holes in your sinking ark of faith. Go read some more "Left Behind" tripe to make yourselves feel better by believing that you're "saved."
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richardhunter, anonymous:
This needs to stop now. It's a far cry from even using live animals in a nativity scene, where you may have a camel or a sheep standing around grazing on grass. Holding a frightened lamb next to an agitated lion? This P.T. Barnum of mega-church evangelism needs to come up with a different way to make a spectacle out of himself. Immediately.
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davisp, anonymous:
Christian theologian Andrew Linzey describes the situation as follows:
“Far too often Christians have accepted the common secular view that we are the masters of animals – their rulers or owner, utterly forgetting that the dominion promised to humanity is a deputized dominion that we are to stand before creation as God’s vice-regents , putting into affect not our own egotistical wants, but God’s own law of love and mercy. And yet when one begins to challenge our own despotic treatment of animals…again and again.. One has to face this humanistic dogma: “If it benefits humanity. It must be right”.
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katrice0321, anonymous:
I was there. There were professional handlers onstage and the animals were not stressed. Those of you who do not know this pastor should watch what you say. This story was written with an obvious slant. There are many preachers who lack integrity. Pastor Ed is not one of them. If you wrote best-selling books and spoke around the world, you too might have a plane.
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techrepub, anonymous:
Wonder how much that transport cost. Or do they just ride on the private jet? And I thought the original Easter message was compelling! What a circus. Enjoy the revenue made in your bookstore this weekend. That's what it's all about, right? How many hungry children could have been fed, clothed with the money they pay for these stunts?
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