National press starts to sneeringly cover Dallas Arts District
Mike Orren says:
Everyone seems amazed we didn't spend the money on Copenhagen and pickup trucks.
LA Times is more "meh"; picks on D Magazine
A positive review from Newsweek, but cautioning that time matters
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Travis Bush, says:
I see a couple of things possible. One might be that the Arts District become an open air place for visual and performing artists to "play" and thrive. The upcoming deck park could make this happen and bring some needed local culture to downtown, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
The other and unfortunately more probable is that the buildings will be built in the name of "art", but will really only be for the benefit of Dallas' old money crowd and their friends. The "local" scene will continue to struggle in their own areas and have little if anything to do with the "Arts District".
BTW, the Times is correct..slopping all those buildings together doesn't foster the arts community or benefit Dallas as a whole.
alexander troup, says:
Travis has a point, I consider....Human and kind, my end of the deal is this.....That was a historical area, having no real..Developement as such, while it was a French community in the 1880's Africian American , Chinese and later Hispanic and where Doc Holliday is to have alleged to have slept his 19 months in Dallas.......
It was many things, but lets move forward, it does not however, include the romance of a Arts Type area, more like a bigger bank or Gym for consumption...
And it is cold and a vacum of perfection that is boring....It is so modern the world does see Dallas as a future city, until they arrive and I have heard their comments,... "A City with no real class or dynamics to represent a character of good human intention or invention,despite the orgin of well rounded manpulations and import productive education, for such a young city.. thus the gross reflection of a concession stand that is run by robots....
While the real function 25 years ago,...was to replace Fair Park.... and the old inner city, which it has....done so well, with the need to be Snoody and Superficial and Pompus...the area is what Jerry Jones should be admired for.....Cash cow concession..and the hell with class let see another 8 dollar beer....Bubbas...A/T... You cant buy love or class, you have to acquire and realize its deeper meaning as time should apply naturally as something good is real...
Jason Rice, says:
Now Travis.... new expensive buildings solve everything.
That's how we got downtown to it's current state of glory.
jtmbls, says:
I am not at all surprised at Hawthorn’s interpretation of the contrast in buildings and rather than find it insulting, believe he is just very perceptive. There was a good deal of competition between the two projects during the design phase; at the management level and between the design teams. Each building most definitely reflects the attitude and demeanor of each firm, which could not have been more different. While Foster + Partners were warm and inviting and had an obvious love of design, art and people; Ramus and Koolhaas were rather egomaniacal and prone to diva-ish behavior. The differences are blatant in their creations, imo.
alexander troup, says:
Well Jason, I have to further...tell folks,.. as the Dallas Tarzan...Downtown is not a mall, it is office buildings and more office buildings and then some....but. It don't have the street life good jungle people can hang out in...as a matter of fact...The Urban Market is much better then what they should or wont have in the Arts District....
Besides poor people or people with in means make a city not folks with pleanty of dough ray me....A/T...Spend what you need and enjoy the inner city....
Travis Bush, says:
Did jtmbls just post some words?
alexander troup, says:
Monkey Bean did Travis, and with some depth and education that tells me she needs to be in on one of their art shows ...and realize the hype on Flora street.....A/T, Seeing is realizing....
Andrew Laska, says:
I find that many people don't understand Dallas whether it be those people commenting here critically, or LA Times. Dallas is a modern city with its growth and identity primarily created in the 20th century. It is not going to reflect 19th century imagined throwbacks in the 21st century. Those offering the harshest criticism usually don't offer any realistic alternative. They offer only the vaguest qualitative criticism with no discussion on practical alternative ends, and many times they do the usual "oh that will never work" criticism. Add onto that the desire for instant perfection which oftentimes reflects how much those critics embody things they like to criticize.
alexander troup, says:
Your right Andrew, it should not represent throwback facades, but.....I have been in the Arts District world a good many years..and you have to have a nice frame,not a steel rod.....A/T, ..Framing is good taste, steel rods are for curtains...
Travis Bush, says:
I don't think anyone is asking for instant gratification. Sustainability would be nice, although this seemingly is not possible and that's what is rather obvious to anyone who has lived here or kept an eye on our city for any length of time.
Andrew Laska, says:
Mr troup, my comment was pointed precisely to that kind of criticism. Look historically at the contemporary criticism that many buildings and structures withstood when later they were recognized as "great." Many if not most had harsh criticism leveled at them in the beginning. That's a lesson here.
Jason Rice, says:
::Did jtmbls just post some words?
Here, I'll translate:
::practical alternative ends
I thought an "Art Themed Bounce House" was the best way to go.
Matches the Big D commitment to creativity while maintaining valuable parking spaces when deflated.
alexander troup, says:
Thanks for playing House of Cards, Andrew... this is a great country, to say and realize.....while I am aware of your own perspective and you should promote...new, and while I observe new behind the scene also....Meanwhile, I don't share the real meat on the stick of what is that place....and clues to my own psychic... exsposure to the area...and on modern living,Well......A/T.People should live in a glass house...My hut is made of humble wood...
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