Man arrested in alleged bombing attempt at Fountain Place in downtown Dallas
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Damn, Orren, you beat me to this! So, yeah, I like only work in a building that someone placed an inactive car bomb in today. It's cool. How're you? And the kids? That's grrrreat.
Michael Anderson Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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forgive my ignorance (perhaps), but does "inactive" mean that it was only waiting for someone to 'push the button' to detonate, or does it mean that it was ready to go but not working properly?
either way, scary stuff...
James Scott Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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From other reports I've read, evidently the guy got his materials for the bomb from an undercover FBI agent who provided an inert substance instead of explosive material. Glad the FBI is monitoring some of these chatrooms and websites, and are taking it seriously. Scary stuff.
momzilla Anonymous
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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I've heard some shady stories about some shady FBI tactics. As in, agents convincing someone to carry out a bombing, then convincing them to buy explosives from them, etc., and then arresting them.
Who knows if they'd done anything without the FBI's help, but hey, look at that, another arrest...
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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More like FBI responsible for inactive bomb and entrapment..
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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The reports I read (a half-dozen through Google News) say that the suspect stated that he came to this country (illegally) specifically to wage violent jihad against the U.S. He came to the attention of the FBI after making frequent statements of his desire. So, this doesn't look like a case of entrapment; the guy looks like he intended to do this from the start. I'm glad they caught him.
Pooua Anonymous
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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Ah, well I'm pretty glad then.
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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Bullet dodged! Bring the troops home, we can use them here.
Rick Yost Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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Two conclusions I draw, based on very few facts available at the moment:
This stupid kid did something that he thought would kill a lot of people. Jail is a good place for him to be for the next good long while.
The only people recruiting for Al Qaida in this country work for the FBI. Eventually, I'm afraid they'll recruit someone who *isn't* dumb as a post, and then we're screwed.
Robert Brooks Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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::Bring the troops home, we can use them here.
To build Wind Farms!!!!
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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yes and lay siege to that which claims to be Plano...
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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It only leads to me to think... would he have carried this out if it weren't for the FBI walking him through it? I guess he had it in his heart to wage "violet jihad" on Americans but hopefully the FBI followed all the right steps in order for this NOT to be considered entrapment. This is scary and makes me sort of glad that the FBI monitors us...
nina_chawla Anonymous
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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Based on what I've read, he would have tried to. Now, whether he could have actually gotten the materials, that's a different story, but honestly, as long as you know a little chemistry and have patience, it's not that hard to concoct something that will hurt people. We're made of mostly fragile stuff.
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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NUCLEAR BOMB?!? --> FBI / CIA whistleblowers (Sibel Edmonds) recently reveal in court testimony that high-ranking government officials are involved is selling NUCLEAR secrets and weapons and intelligence to Third World terrorist countries. Why?..Why does the Dallas Morning News censor this information?... ...Is The Dallas Morning News trying to protect these high-ranking government officials? The DMN has repeatedly been notified about this court testimony.
FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds during her deposition in regard to bribery and blackmail of current and former members of the U.S. Congress, including Dennis Hastert (R-IL), Bob Livingston (R-LA), Dan Burton (R-IN), Roy Blunt (R-MO), Stephen Solarz (D-NY), Tom Lantos (D-CA, deceased) and the sale of nuclear secrets were being done by people such as Marc Grossman, Secretary of State for Political Affairs (third-ranking high official). People and weapons went one way, drugs came back.
Pat Buchanan's Magazine THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE has the story which was released this week. http://amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/...
Some people involved with bribery, blackmail, extortion, treasonous sale of NUCLEAR secrets, etc.... Marc Grossman, then the third highest-ranking official at the State Department. Marc was leading the sale of nuclear secrets 100%.
Air Force Major Douglas Dickerson and his wife.
The top person obtaining classified information was Congressman Tom Lantos.
Richard Perle and Douglas Feith.
RAND Corporation. ... ...arrangements with Kissinger’s group, with Northrop Grumman, with former secretary of state James Baker’s group, and also with former national security adviser Brent Scowcroft.
Bob Livingston
Number-two after him was Dan Burton, and then he became number-one until Hastert became the speaker of the House. Jan Schakowsky, the Democratic congresswoman from Illinois. Turkish agents started gathering information on her, and they found out that she was bisexual. So a Turkish agent struck up a relationship with her. When Jan Schakowsky’s mother died, the Turkish woman went to the funeral, hoping to exploit her vulnerability. They later were intimate in Schakowsky’s townhouse, which had been set up with recording devices and hidden cameras. They needed Schakowsky and her husband Robert Creamer to perform certain illegal operational facilitations for them in Illinois. They already had Hastert, the mayor, and several other Illinois state senators involved. I don’t know if Congresswoman Schakowsky ever was actually blackmailed or did anything for the Turkish woman.
TomTPlano Anonymous
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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At least he was a partier and a good babysiter:
http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws...
Mike Orren Staff
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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Hey, a novel. Neat.
"FBI / CIA whistleblowers (Sibel Edmonds)"
So, is there just one whistle blower, or are there many? Does Sibel work for both the FBI and the CIA, or what? Can you summarize your paranoid auto-paste into a sentence addressing these questions?
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 4 weeks ago
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So, just curious...How many of you would bomb a car/building/kill people if someone tried to pursuade you to?
jtmbls Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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One with Michael in it or just any building?
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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What if it is a small theater in Plano?
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Or a decrepit art studio in Dallas?
These are all serious factors.
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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What I don't get is why the FBI allowed him to stay in country when they knew he was here illegally. They could have immediately deported him back to Jordan without the elaborate set up. I mean really, he was one crazy guy, who obviously didn't have access to bomb making materials. The FBI incites, if not goads him into an illegal act and people are OK with this? He should have been deported immediately, instead of the FBI grandstanding.
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Looking at his picture, I think I saw him hamming it up in Purgatory the other day. The coward should have just blown himself up in public. That would have said much more about how serious he was about his violent jihad business. Instead he finds some other idiot to go do this with him. Honestly, the FBI seem like the enablers in this situation.
nina_chawla Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Travis.... um, did you just suggest deporting illegal aliens.... in Texas?
Hey, when LULAC finishes with you, can I have your Star Wars Figurine collection?
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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I will probably have to change my name to Caesar Chavez and go deep undercover..
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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And you can open a taqueria!
nina_chawla Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Yeah..in Farmer's Branch even...
AND BTW, Jason...they are action figures..NOT figurines, STUPID HEAD!
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Oh, right "figurines" are for girls.
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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<i>What I don't get is why the FBI allowed him to stay in country when they knew he was here illegally.</i>
Preventing a bombing looks better on a report than deporting an illegal. Gotta justify those big Security Theater dollars somehow.
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Most people are unaware that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was a result of the FBI using LIVE explosives. Yes, in fact, the FBI informant (Salem) working the case balked when the FBI decided to use LIVE explosives. Salem was paid one million dollars for his work. Salem wanted to use fake explosives. He recorded the FBI conversations. The people who died in '93 were as a result of the FBI sting operation using live explosives. Mainstream media(as usual)let the story die, just like they do not publicize the videos of Building 7 being demolished.
Kudos to the local FBI for being competent.
TomTPlano Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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ITT: Pavel clearly has researched bomb-making and declares his discontent for the FBI.
Also, he's a furriner. Just sayin.
Scott Doyle Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Building 7
Imagine that getting mentioned here.
Cesar Chavez!!.... oh, Travis beat me.
Fine.
Furry bombers scare me lots too.
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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If I disappear under mysterious circumstances, avenge my death/deportation (which would lead to my death.)
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Well, at least we now know the J.F.K stigma is going to be removed,while this is now a 9/11 city in terms of Homeland security meaning,...................
How come it took 8 years to arrive at this function....A/T,.. Terror and the seeds of such that folks can plant to create terror,,,is a real thing.........
alexander troup Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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I can't even believe what I am reading. But then, this is nothing new.
Call me crazy but it is as if people in this city/country are completely oblivious to the fact that there is a fraction of our society who would take great pleasure in killing Americans. Yes, even you compassionate Americans who would invite the guy home for dinner and a beer.
I understand that it is difficult to fathom. Nobody wants to believe that some poor lost soul would intentionally, willingly do something this horrific. Just like no one was able to comprehend how a hand full of sociopaths could fly planes into buildings and murder thousands of innocents. I don't want to believe it. I understand why a lot of other people don't want to believe it either. But the truth is that they do exist.
Did the FBI find a person who had these dreams of murder and was a person willing to act on them? Apparently. Did they play along to see how far he was willing to go? Yep. And Thank you FBI for exposing this weakness and taking care to diffuse the issue before it became an issue. Thank you FBI for getting to him before some real nut job did. Before said nut job "incited and goaded" him to do a thing that could have affected many lives in a very tragic way. Thank you FBI for potentially saving the lives of people so they could bitch about what a crappy job you are doing. God Bless America.
jtmbls Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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"Did they play along to see how far he was willing to go?"
Why do this? Why not simply deport him immediately? He was already here illegally, so it isn't like there wasn't sufficient reason to kick him from the country and put him on the terrorist watch list. Did it really take them that long to figure out he wasn't working with other terrorists?
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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For the record, I think that in this case they did the right thing.
In the past - I don't remember the incident exactly - they did the wrong thing.
Living is risk. I'm not willing to let federal agencies break some rules to uphold others.
Pavel Lishin Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Travis - Deport him. Yes, that is the answer. Because...Well, he obviously won't be able to get back into our country because our border policies are airtight. A bang-up job we are doing there! Toss them out and they will never make it back in? Surely you jest, Sir!
Pavel - I love you and I hate you all at the same time! Yes, be grateful to them but don't ever stop questioning their motives.
jtmbls Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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jt..the only reason he was here was because of a student visa. Putting one crazy 19 year old Arab kid that hates the U.S. in jail to prevent him from either coming back or not committing a terrorist act at all is like try to catch water with a sieve..If he got sent back to Jordan, he might likely be branded as a possible terrorist and face a much nastier reception. BTW, my brand of questioning the motives of the FBI doesn't mean I am not glad he was caught.
Maybe after being called a POS by drunken FBI agents gives me a different perspective, or maybe I just refuse to get caught up in the same insane fear mongering that has gone on forever.
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Oh Travis, you know you’re my bro but please. Give me a break. I am fed up to my eyeballs with excuses like that. You had the misfortune of running into a bunch of idiots with federal badges. That sucks. Believe it or not, everyone has those moments. When I was 21 I had the misfortune of running into a police officer who had a bad day. Out with friends having a low key night on the town and ended up making painful friends with the concrete due to said police officer. But I’m a skinny white girl, so my story wasn’t newsworthy and I (egad!) had to take responsibility for the situation I put myself in. Couldn’t call the race card, the religion card, the hippy card or even the below the legal limit card (because there wasn’t such a thing back then). So please, do me the favor of not assuming that I don’t know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of someone else’s bad day.
Can we put our personal vendettas aside and just for one moment say thank you to the men and women risking their lives to protect us? Because even though some of them get a little power mad and stressed out, the majority are in their jobs to do the right thing. To do a good thing and to take care of the people and the country they love. Can we not just take a moment and say “Hey – Michael Anderson, I’m so happy you are still here. I’m so happy that our government did something right and you are still with us and able to contribute to our community. I’m so thankful we didn’t have to watch you suffer.”
If our federal agents had to play a little dirty to make that our reality…I for one am okay with that. I’m going to guess Michael’s family might be to.
jtmbls Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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too (Baahh!! I hate it when I do that!)
jtmbls Anonymous
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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That totally ruined your whole post..
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Yeah - I got to that and I just quit reading
Jason Rice Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Thanks, jtmbls, and well put. I'm definitely glad to still be here,too, if for no other reason than to be able to read y'all's always entertaining back n' forths ;)
Michael Anderson Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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This thing is really....stupid,backin 1941,they rounded up the Japanese for a good reason ,not the Germans,,but !... they got the Japanese out becuase of their ability to have acess through San Francisco....well..Why can't the program be consistent...round up the lost sheep and send them back.....A/T, You cant fix stupid....will they...whos running the show again....2001,2010...and then 20/12....
alexander troup Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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Yes..I'm quite sure we are all glad Michael survived the fake bombing.
Travis Bush Verified
1 month, 3 weeks ago
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