Comments by Todd Stein
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Posted on September 19, 2008 at 9:46 a.m.
I agree Chrisdanger - it seems that LULAC is do the Cesar Chavez thing nationally. To follow the tradition of Dallas, I'd prefer that local, influential Latino's were the focus. I totally understand where CC stands from a national perspective... But would love to honor local folks first.
I'd have no issue with 5 or 6 or 7 NEW streets around the metroplex named in honor of local Latinos. To me, this should have happen first - over CC.
Posted on September 19, 2008 at 7:56 a.m.
Bill - At the end of all this, the best cliche' for us is "we have to agree to disagree" on changing Ross.
And with that - I pray that LULAC does not make this a multiyear effort for Ross Ave (as you stated it could be) and really, really, really pray that LULAC does everything possible to avoid any violence.
Violence over the changing a street name would do nothing but set back Latinos (many who are not in favor of this issue) and The City of Dallas decades.
I find it sad that you have mentioned potential violence many times over the course of this debate. I know you are not a supporter of violence - but would hope that LULAC leadership would strongly say that this is not an option and lead.
Posted on September 18, 2008 at 10:28 p.m.
Bill - As I mentioned many times before - I think that the Ross Brothers role in Dallas is adequately represented by a street name. Besides the economic reasons, my big issue with the change was 2 fold - (1) the history of "the street" and what it represents to Dallas (2) there is no rationale reason to rename a street that is already named after a person. Just sets a bad, bad prescedent.
Still - curious if you are going to continue the fight for Ross. The part that scares me is the feelings that no other street in Dallas was acceptable but Ross (according to you and Joey).
Hopefully you are not - but seems odd that both of you were so forceful that no other street (or place like Farmers Market) would be acceptable
Posted on September 18, 2008 at 4:55 p.m.
Curious about Bill and Joey's thought on Industrial. While Tax Payer Julie thinks this is a great win, both Bill and Joey suggested that Ross Avenue was the "only" street that should carry CC's name. Both can recite all those reasons many times - focusing on the church, the mega march and the DISD. Since Industrial doesn't have any of the Latino support points that they claims made "Ross the only choice"... are they going to fight for Ross still or is Industrial suddenly ok?
Posted on September 18, 2008 at 4:49 p.m.
Jason - I am assuming she also meant non-scientically valid poll (not a "vote") where people could call in, vote multiple times, and not necessarily be an official City of Dallas resident
Posted on September 17, 2008 at 1:22 p.m.
Bill - as reported in this article in "Latina Lista"...
"Last year's Mega March in support of undocumented immigrants in Dallas drew almost half a million people."
In the eyes of anyone Undocumented Immigrants = Illegal Immigrants. Different symantics - same exact thing
I apologize if my tone came off sinister. All I meant was that the march was for something that many people have various opinons on (how to handle illegal aliens already in the country).
Posted on September 16, 2008 at 8:19 a.m.
Ok - I am on board - close this. Lock this.
Bill, buddy Bill (1) your "Todd Anonymous" is freaking annoying. I have actually submitted my contact info to be verified. Your tone does more to make me have no desire to find a win/win solution than anything
(2) Great talking points ?!? For a comedy routine. If you really believe that babble, they I point to MLK and Malcomn X having positive effect on the african american dropout rate
(3) Adios to this thread... I will tell all supporters of the renaming this. Work on a non-Ross solution and you will find tons of support from many, many people of all races. Make this a win or go down fighting - win/loss - "I don't care about business owners and Dallas history" fight and you will not only lose - you will do more to harm the reputation of Latinos in the City of Dallas than help (even though a large number of Latinos don't care or are against this fight)
If y'all decide that Farmer's Market is a good solution, shoot me an email at tstein7240@sbcglobal.net. I will be more than willing to lend my marketing expertise to help you out. I think it is a relevant and "smart" decision for ALL residents of Dallas + helps accomplish all the end goals the Task Force desires. Seriously - I am offering my help - tell those "anonymous" supporters from LULAC to contact me if they desire.
Posted on September 15, 2008 at 7:31 a.m.
If this thread is going to be closed - please do it after Bill explains the "tax savings".
I am really curious to hear this explaination. It might change my views on city gov't spending. Heck - if changing a street name saves money, I have a long list of street names to change. I am all for saving people tax dollars :)
Posted on September 14, 2008 at 10:56 p.m.
"Handled right it will be a very big plus for Dallas, and save tax money, and ultimately make Dallas a much better place to live."
Ok, one new thing we learned. Spending $10K to change street signs will some how save tax payers money over spending $0 to not change signs. Genius!
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Posted on September 19, 2008 at 3:54 p.m.
No, I am not Rasansky. But, we think alike :)
http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/Ra...
http://cityhallblog.dallasnews.com/ar...
Council member Mitchell Rasansky has sharply opposed renaming Ross Avenue or Industrial Boulevard for civil rights leader Cesar Chavez.
But today he offered an official compromise in the form of a memo to his council colleagues.
In the memo, he calls for renaming the Dallas Farmers Market downtown for Mr. Chavez.
The market already has a plaque honoring Mr. Chavez's work on behalf of farm workers. Finding it is the trick.
On Changing Ross Avenue to Cesar Chavez makes logical sense