Posted on May 31, 2007 at 1:21 p.m.

ldupree wrote: I wish you woulod quit following every single thing I try to do for the animals. You are reaching cyber stalker proportions and it creeps me out.

For the record you joined this board on may 29, 2007, I joined on May 14. So who is following whom. I have been following this site for some time now.

It is disgusting how some persons who cannot talk about an issue on its merits. They always degenerate into name calling, bullying and intimidation tatics, or get emotional.

When I started this discussion back before the election I WANTED to be convinced that asking for that amount of money was in the greater good of the town. Just like the other bond items. At this time I am totally convinced that it isn't. I still think we need a shelter like we needed a townhall but not the shelter as proposed.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 31, 2007 at 1:04 p.m.

Let me help you do the math, evandoren since you are all emotion. The Tricities area has 121,385 persons as of July 2005. 4.25 million divided by the number of persons equals $35.01 per person unlike 197.11 per person as in HC.

Lake Dallas has 7000 persons as of July 2005. You say Lake dallas is spending 300,000.00. That worsks out to 42.86 per person unlike 197.11 as in HC.

Even if I use 450K for hickory creek as has been stated it works out to 147.73 per person for HC.

(Note all math above is before interest).

I noted that you point out that the is a lot of donated materials etc being put into the Lake Dallas shelter. The citizens of HC have never been asked to donate to the animal shelter bulding, we were just asked to open our pocketbooks for someone to take out some money (notice I did not say give). Apparently lake dallas has community spirit that allows them to work together (like they did the sign at the entrace to their town) and not BULLY and harass anyone who has a different opinion.

As noted before, all the Lake Cities ( Hickory creek - which wants a shelter, Lake Dallas which has a tiny one and Corinth which doesn't have one) could have pooled their resources, mobilized their communities for donations, labor etc and built a shelter instead of indivual persons in HC trying to build a monunument to themselves for the wonderful work that they do and get media attention (yes i am being sarcastic).

By the way heres a little math for you - if Lake Dallas and HC went in together and spent 600,000.00 the cost would have been 59.74 per person). If Corinth and Shady shores joined in the cost would DROP to 19.91 per person.

I also find is quite amusing to think that Lake Dallas with double our population is spending much less than Hickory Creek. I know you will say that theirs is not as nice as ours would have been. But you will make my poiint all the same.

If we stop drinking the kool-aid long enough to stop and think as I did and not get all emotional and angry the facts would just jump out at you.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 30, 2007 at 8:30 a.m.

It is so interesting to see where the mean spirited, bellicose, pompous, and have a personal agenda language is coming from. Once again it is because of this type of attitude from segments of the HC population why the town has a hard time progressing. I am not a candidate, related to a candidate, journalist or dog catcher.

ms Dupree I dont know you and dont want to know you, unlike you who have been trying to find out who I am. I don't have anything against you. As I stated many times, my only sin was to ask questions about the entire bond program in order to spur conversation as to the needs of the town. An justification of the sums of money that are being asked for.

The fact that you and your ilk got so hot and bothered about my asking about the animal shelter just confirms to all that this was a "private" "pat yourself on the back" boondoggle to be financed by the public purse. Exactly the kind of thing that we all rail against.

To date all (except two) of the responses to me have been of the kind that seem to threaten, incite and name call all in an attempt to intimidate me to shutup.

As I also said before, lets speak about the issue.

Evandoran said: I have lived here for many years and at last count we had about Twenty four hundred residents so maybe mailreader has the wrong town when she suggested 5000.

I am thankfull for evadoren for correcting me regarding the towns population. It spurred me to go find "Accurate" data that was acceptable to all. The actual count in July 2005 was 3044 persons. http://www.city-data.com/city/Hickory...

This just worsened my projection: $600,000.00 for a towm of 3044 is too much to spend on a animal shelter. That calculates to exactly $197.11 per man, woman and child before interest on a 30 year bond. The average household income in HC is 73,000.00. Where exactly do you suppose that extra 788.44 plus interest is supposed to come from in todays world.

What matters is that I am a citizen of Hickory Creek who decided along with the other voters that 600K is too much. Perhaps if ms dupree would have taken the comments and election in humility, she would have said lets go back and find a solution that the voters will accept. Instead of pandering to the basest of emotions and lashing out against one citizen who voiced their opinion, quitting the board and taking her ball and going home. I cannot speak for the other voters but me and my family have no opposition to an animal shelter in HC per se. Only this one with this cost.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 29, 2007 at 2:53 p.m.

Teresa Gubbins said: as rawlins gilliland once paraphrased, "you can tell a lot about a [place] by the way they treat their animals." i don't live in hickory creek so i can't speak for what other needs the town has that would take precedence over an animal shelter. (i'm also curious as to what would be considered a good price for an animal shelter, since "mailreader" has deemed $600K to be "too much".) in any case, i admire lisa dupree's efforts to look out for animal welfare and make hickory creek a better place.

You can tell alot about a people by how they spend their money and much debt they are willing to incur.

There are several options available to the town of 5000 persons for an animal shelter. One of wich was to partner with the other small towns in the area and build a combined shelter, like we have a combined fire system and school. The AW Board which included ms Dupree "deemed" that those options were not good enough.

600K is too much when you consider that the shelter will house at most no more than approximately 1- 1.5 dozen animal at the peak. Most times it is one or two. So we have no need to spend copius amounts of money to do a "If we build it they will come" boondoggle.

600K is too much when we still have road and drainge issues in the town.

600K is too much when you consider that the town is only 5000 persons.

600K is too much when we dont have a good library or parks.

PS where the animal shelter is was until recently the townhall where the city did business. The shelter is NOT in imminent danger of being displaced by the I35 widening project. There is still time for a logical rational solution to be developed.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 29, 2007 at 2:51 p.m.

Teresa Gubbins said: as rawlins gilliland once paraphrased, "you can tell a lot about a [place] by the way they treat their animals." i don't live in hickory creek so i can't speak for what other needs the town has that would take precedence over an animal shelter. (i'm also curious as to what would be considered a good price for an animal shelter, since "mailreader" has deemed $600K to be "too much".) in any case, i admire lisa dupree's efforts to look out for animal welfare and make hickory creek a better place.

There are several options available to the town of 5000 persons for an animal shelter. One of wich was to partner with the other small towns in the area and build a combined shelter, like we have a combined fire system and school. The AW Board which included ms Dupree "deemed" that those options were not good enough.

600K is too much when you consider that the shelter will house at most no more than approximately 1- 1.5 dozen animal at the peak. Most times it is one or two. So we have no need to spend copius amounts of money to do a "If we build it they will come" boondoggle.

600K is too much when we still have road and drainge issues in the town.

600K is too much when you consider that the town is only 5000 persons.

600K is too much when we dont have a good library or parks.

PS where the animal shelter is was until recently the townhall where the city did business. The shelter is NOT in imminent danger of being displaced by the I35 widening project. There is still time for a logical rational solution to be developed.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 29, 2007 at 2:23 p.m.

And again who is digressing from the subject. Look how long your post is and not about the shelter. You have had articles written about how the poor shelter is about to be torn down because of the shortsightedness of the citizens to give you $600,000.00 of their personal money so you can run an animal rescue. In essence trying to put a bad light on the Town because you did not get what you wanted. The townspeople VOTED. They said no. And you quit the animal welfair board.

So the people who read this site understand what you are about here are your wortds from your site, "I did leave the board but, I wont ever quit the animals. Im just going to try a new strategy.

wish me luck ...

For my furry friends & friends of the animals." Here is the link http://www.hcforum.talkthis.com/hcfor...

I knew this was here because I am registered to Pegasus news.

As said above I am so glad that this is a public forum. How were my questions to why we need to spend this money obnoxioous? I don't know how many complaints you received from someone asking plain old questions. I never called anyone out, used foul language or anything. But you saw fit to go looking to try and see who I was even doing IP tracing and then posting who you thought I was so that your friends could have a laugh. You even now continue to do so.

As I told you then I do again I am an independant thinker who moved to HC and continue to look a things from an objectiive perspective. I don't know the candidates other than I met them all once(except karen Clarke when they came to my door solicitating votes). I have more than enough expertise to know when perople are trying take my money for their own purposes under the guise of public good. You and others in HC continue to alienate people like me who would like to see HC develop without the partisanship, sniping, hyperbole and snooping.

I hope that HC can get an animal shelter one day, without the likes of you involved.

Look at the facts. It is about other peoples money and you would have the government take it and spend it on you pet project not for the good of the entire town.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 29, 2007 at 1 p.m.

Fortunately this is a public blog where you cannot just delete my comments or my membership, like you did on your private site. I seaid that the candidates who support the shelter were defeated by a 2-1 margin.

Once again as i stated on your private site, the citizens of HC are not opposed to an animal shelter just paying too much for one and now we are opposed to being "strong-armed" to provide a private playground.

First you get a slanted story in the Denton-Record Chronicle then on CW33.

As I said then I say now, Why should a town of 5000 people spend $600,000.00 on an animal shelter when we have other needs. The citizens decided NO. It is too much.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 29, 2007 at 11:13 a.m.

Contrary to ms Dupree's thoughts the animaml shelter bond lost because the citizens of the town decided that "we the citizens" did not want to spend $600,000.00 for an animal shelter for a town of 5000 persons to house at most no more than a dozen animals at a time. In addition, ms. dupree and her supporters seem to think that only their opinion counts as to what is good for Hickory Creek. That is why the bond failed and the candidates who were in favor of it lost by a 2-1 margin.

One person did not cast all those votes and to insinuate that all those voters were stupid minions who mindlessly followed one man who donated $4500.00 total to the three candidates is ridiculous and elitist.

On Lisa Dupree, animal rights activist, resigns from Hickory Creek Animal Welfare Board

Posted on May 16, 2007 at 3:37 p.m.

As a legal immigrant (not from mexico) I am appalled that anyone would consider breaking the law justified. I spent my time waiting never being illegal and paid lots of money to be here. It is unthinkable that I could have just jumped a fence and waited till some amnesty. As to the fact that they pay taxes etc. What taxes other than sales taxes. and they take more tnan they put in. It is shameful that people would even consider this somehow moral. Perhaps they should go and see how mexico treats its illegal immigrtants from other countries.

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